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The Stilt, a famous Finnish overclocker, has managed to boost clock-rate of the yet-unreleased AMD FX-8370 microprocessor to whopping 8722MHz, which is just 72MHz lower than the world’s record CPU frequency.
To overclock his eight-core FX-8370 chip to 8.72GHz, The Stilt had to increase the core voltage to 2.064V and used a system featuring Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z mainboard, 8GB of memory operating in dual-channel mode at 2218MHz, Asus Radeon R9 290X Direct CU II graphics card as well as liquid nitrogen cooling. The overclocker managed to boost default clock-rate of the FX-8370 processor (4.10GHz) by more than two times, an extraordinary result.
What is especially important is that The Stilt managed to overclock his FX-8370 central processing unit with all eight cores (four dual-core Piledriver modules) active. By contrast, the record 8794.33MHz frequency was achieved by an FX-8350 chip with only two active cores (one dual-core Piledriver module).
While AMD’s FX chips are based on the two years old code-named “Vishera” design, stepping 0, revision OR-C0, it should be noted that GlobalFoundries’ 32nm process technology might get a little bit better than it was in 2012. As a result, it is possible that over time chips like the FX-8370 will actually beat the world's record of 8794MHz.
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KitGuru Says: The overclocking potential of the new AMD FX processors may be an interesting thing to investigate. If newer chips can actually work at higher frequencies without any problems, it may mean that eventually AMD could offer faster FX products even based on the current architecture.
Still not as good as intel.
Who cares? An FX 8350 on multithreaded applications can stay toe to toe with the much newer Ivy Bridge and even sometimes with Haswell, not bad for a two years old CPU. If I want to do something simple and light threaded, I have my tablet for that.
For 1/2 the price it’s better at some things and worse at others. I’m running Intel ATM, but the price:performance on these things is just undeniable.
I wish they actually had FX Processors that could fit in a Mini ITX board, that’s a pipe dream but the amount of price:performance I can get with these chips are worth a shot.
Technically this is the unofficial world record as he hasnt disabled any cores whereas andre yang disabled 6
Still cheaper to buy a new intel chip than buy a new AMD chip..mainly because I would need to then buy a AMD Socket motherboard? AM3? So it comes out cheaper for me to just buy the latest Intel chip on the market =)
you pay for quality…usually when people buy something based on price they get burnt someway…with AMD its less performance when you could of paid that extra $100 and gotten an even better product.
With that said I am a huge fan of the GPU chips AMD produce…I just don’t trust there CPU branch enough like I used to.
It depends what you’re doing. If you’re using multi-core and thread optimised programs then the 8350 (nevermind the 8370) will outperform most of the highest end consumer chips in Intel’s lineup; you have to go for the server grade to see any significant lead by Intel. Meanwhile, for single core Intel still have a pretty clear lead. It also depends what you want to do with the chip. I’ve got my i5 clocked to a 24/7 4.5Ghz, which is great for air, but most people simply don’t get as good an overclock without needing more expensive cooling options – yet 4.5 on an FX series chip has always been routine, while 4.9/5 on air is quite common. And let’s face it, my 4.5Ghz chip wouldn’t stand a chance against a 5+Ghz 8350/8370. There are many other factors, but suffice to say it’s just not as simple as ‘with AMD it’s less performance’.
Intel use a new socket with every generation CPU they release so if you’re buying a new chip on Intel and aren’t upgrading on the same line (which unless you bought a dud in the first place would be pointless for the tiny gain), you’re going to need a new board anyway. I’m currently running a 3570k, and needing to upgrade I’m going to have to buy a new board (with new socket) and CPU. Of course, I’ll have to go Intel next gen, because none of the current AMD releases are enough better to make it worth switching, but that’s only because they haven’t offered too much in the way of FX lately.
I’m with you there bro. It’s always annoyed me that you can’t get them.
Dear Ryan, It’s Overclocking CPU Not performance !
Chill out boys, I was only having a joke. Not meant to be taken seriously =)
A programmer friend of mine said that it’s not primarily because certain cpu brands or designs are better than one another. A possibility is that many programmers are looking at multi-threading wrong and are implementing it wrong, hence the reason why lots of programs aren’t ‘properly’ optimized for multi-core or multi-threading in such designs.
So all in all, the biggest bottleneck is in the code programmers utilize to write their programs, they are following a traditional ‘route’ in development that they don’t realize that it’s much better to start from scratch again.
Rewriting things from scratch for instance, and comparing it with the traditional codes, you’ll see how big of a optimization you can get… But people don’t care about optimization, they want convenience to release their software faster.
…While burning at the temperature of the sun and having a dedicated nuclear power station to feed it. No thanks.
Well, there’s always Zen…
Actually a AMD CPU is intended to run at about 40ish degrees C or in other words just over 100 F.
It might produce more heat then a Intel chip but on the whole it’s actually colder and will throttle at way lower temperatures then Intel will.
That means that it requires better cooling, yes.
As for power use…
Depends on what you’re doing on it, your bios settings, applications and so one and so forth.
It’s not like a Intel 8 core uses no power…
It’s not just about multithreaded applications vs single threaded applications either.
The FX 8xxx series of chips have other differences compared with Intel too.
Each core have a floating point unit that it shares with another core (making it two floating point units pr module) that can only do half the precision of a intel floating point unit on its own and have to be combined with the other floating point unit to get the higher precision calculations needed for some of the code optimized for the higher float resources available on Intel.
And there’s other issues as well.
It’s a good processor though, you just need to give it a workload it’s designed for instead of trying to force feed it stuff intended for Intel.
Yeah, but that still means that your overall ambient temp will rise since your cooler will have to dissipate more heat. When something runs hot, it affects the rest of the system temps, too.
And yeah, an intel 8-core uses a lot of power, but why would you care, since an intel quad core has better performance than an amd 8-core, uses less power, and runs cooler. Only downside is, they’re more expensive.
Actually the AMD FX 8xxxx series will beat a intel quad core without hyperthreading in quite a few workloads and even beat the i7 3770k in a few select workloads (as far as I’m aware it has never beaten a 4770k though in performance in anything)
Intel also has an advantage of quite a bit smaller processing node but their eight core still produces a heck of a lot of heat.
That AMDs eight core produces a bit isn’t that strange in that light.
Also, keep in mind that most of the time you don’t use as much power as the chip *can* use.
After all, how often do you run 8 full cores at full throttle?
Even with an overclock my chip often run colder then the 40 degrees target.
Right now for instance it’s hovering between 31 and 34 for the most part (with some occasional spikes to 39 degrees celsius)
And my AiO is quiet.
Don`s speak crap thing, is you are m0r0n that does not know there is FX 8300 for only 110$ that rekts all intel processors when it comes to price to performance, and still the cheapest I7 that can match all that cores is way more expensive, while all i5 processors are just 4 cores…
In rendering, streaming heavy multitasking, and all programs, or games that uses all cores the FX 8350 or any x8 FX chip is performing better then 4790K… Now on new games, the FX whit some more OC can outmatch even 6700K.
Depends.
A FX 8350 beats a 3770k in some workloads and still beats most i5s in multithreaded workloads.
Sure you’ll get more fps with Intel when you’re doing nothing else at the same time.
But I frequently throw enough stuff at my system to get more then 50% memory utilization in a 32 GB system.
400+ browser tabs and a ton of different software running simultaneously.
My 8350 handles that just fine.
Most i5s would grind to a halt in such a situation.
Granted, a quad core i7 would probably do a tiny bit better, but at that price?
Also they’re doing so with a much more modern arcitecture and process node while that 8350 is still handling things many years after it was made with a 32 nm process keeping up with newer more expensive processors from the rival in certain situations.
That said, the single threaded performance is about half of that of a modern Intel CPU.
So I’m really looking forward to Zen as it’ll make the difference hardly noticeable in single threaded performance while beating Intel in multithreaded performance per dollar.
And I’m using a AiO.
The heat is going right out of the system.
My GPU is more of an issue. :-/
Anyway, since my windows actually have quite a draft I’m using my computer for added heating.
In fact that’s part of why I picked the components I did.
=)
Eh…
The 4790K *does* beat the 8350 in everything unless you OC the AMD chip heavily and don’t OC the Intel chip…
Now a 3770k might be beaten in some workloads.
And most i5s lose out in multithreaded workloads.
Anyway, I think that’s fairly well done for a chip still on 32 nm and with roughly half the transistors pr core of a Intel core at the same node.
The chip has held up remarkably well really despite its flaws.
Makes you excited about what AMD can do with Zen. =)
Ofc Zen will be better, but for now the best from AMD is FX8300 and if hit the bin lottery will OC up to 4.6-4.8GHz and will rock for only 110$ for the CPU
Now that here is links, that proof the FX are very very good processor, ofs it have weak spots but i think for old CPU from the start of 2013 and 32nm and low single core IPC is still very good, after all the multicore performance of that processors is ultimate.
http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-6700k-6600k-amd-fx-8370/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ6VAbHxzxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtaTm_avt-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIVGwj1_Qno
Eh, 4,6 is bad luck with a 8350…
4,8 is a normal OC that most people achieve.
5,0 isn’t uncommon at all on water.
You can go way higher if you can keep it cool.
Well after all specially the FX8350 AMD have guarantee 4.2GHz, all after that is luck bcoz is not engineered to get beyond 4.2, so is luck. That is why some people cant do even more then 4.4GHz no matter what voltage they use, the processor is absolutely unstable. While others have insane good chips that can reach 5GHz whit less then 1.4 vcore… I think my 8350 is normal, is not the worst, and is not the best. Im now testing 4.8GHz but seems prime will fail even whit 1.5v, now is on 1.48v and prime blend test was ok for like 10 minutes, and then boom one core get errors, but in GTA V the processor was stable, no freezes, errors, crash or something. Still i think the vcore is big and it give me bigger temperatures, in summer will be even worse…
The best processor that can get easy 5GHz whit low voltage is FX8370, is cheaper then FX9xxx and is partide crystals. Now im not sure if the FX 8370E is better too, bcoz is way cheaper. Still for people that are new to AMD FX best cpu is FX 8300 it cost 100$ and if is lucky chip will reach 4.8-5GHz whit 1.4v.
About my system is CHV, 8350, Noctua D15, FD Define XL R2 whit 6 fans, 3 noctua on 3000rpm in front and 3 1000 rpm FD in back, is very good cooling system, but is still hard to make the FX on 1.5v cool. Today i was put one fan on back of the mobo socket, well it make it from 38-42 idle to 34c, but whit no side panel…. And seems the fan there whit the panel did not make it better, bcoz i dont have mounting for fan on that case behind the socket… I will put one ASUS VRM turbine fan on the VRMs to improve the temps. Not sure what more to add, to improve the air system, im air type of guy so i will not buy water cooler i don`t like water in my pc.
lets says that ryzen is the best now