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AMD not interested in Chromebooks – Mark Papermaster

Chromebooks, personal computers powered by Google Chrome operating system, have become relatively popular among students in the U.S. because of their low price. At least in theory, such PCs should make a perfect match with inexpensive microprocessors from Advanced Micro Devices. Unfortunately, AMD is not interested in Chromebooks. And there are perfect reasons for that.

“You have to really look at the Chromebook, and what Google’s objective with it is,” said Mark Papermaster, chief technology officer of AMD, reports PCWorld. “For us, it's just a business decision, when you need our type of CPU and graphics technology that can make a difference.”

AMD’s decision seems to be pragmatic and logical. IDC estimates that only 4.6 million Chromebooks were sold in 2014, compared to 304 million personal computers featuring Apple Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows shipped  in 2014. Fighting for Chromebook contracts costs money since AMD needs to help engineers of PC makers to integrate its chips. Moreover, AMD needs to invest in development of drivers and firmware for Google Chrome-based PCs. Meanwhile, revenues and profits on that market are extremely limited.

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While average selling prices of AMD's processors are rather low, the company does not want to sell its accelerated processing units for ultra-low-cost personal computers with minimal margins.

“We play in the whole range of [the] market,” said Mr. Papermaster. “We’ll play in [the low-cost] value. You have to at least get paid for that value when you’re working on graphics. You go below that, and you’re looking at $7 chips.”

By contrast, AMD’s arch-rival Intel offers Celeron chips for Chromebooks. However, the reason why Intel offers such chips is not because it wants to earn additional revenue. The company does not want ARM-based system-on-chips to make it into notebooks, according to Dean McCarron, principal analyst at Mercury Research. Intel wants x86 to be architecture of choice for PCs. AMD, who owns an ARMv8-A license and can develop and sell microprocessors featuring ARM architecture, does not care about prosperity of x86.

“For whatever reason, Chromebooks make a lot of sense for Intel to pursue, but I agree with AMD's perspective that it doesn't make financial sense for AMD to chase the segment if they're not seeing a positive margin,” said the analyst. “Perhaps Intel is using Chromebooks as a bulwark against ARM encroachment into the traditional PC client space, and this motivates them to pursue markets AMD would have little interest in.”

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KitGuru Says: On the one hand, AMD’s pragmatic approach to Chromebooks seems to be completely logical. At times when AMD needs to cut-down its R&D budgets, it should not spend on an operating system that is not important. On the other hand, in the future Google will blend Chrome and Android and this is when both platforms will gain importance for everyone.

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6 comments

  1. Silly excuse from AMD, really. Chromebook is a laptop, like any other. Just that it runs free Chromium OS instead Microsoft Windows. Ever since Lisa Su mentioned about Chromebooks back in 2013, seems AMD had not put any effort in that 2 year span. Simply said, just awful decisions and priorities on AMD’s side. Chromebooks can actually help AMD sell a bit more of their chips outside of Windows laptop segment.

    Besides, there are Chromebooks using mobile Intel Core i5 (e.g: Google Chromebook Pixel) and Core i3 (e.g: Acer Chromebook 15). Those are not $7 chips. Thus this segment cannot be simply just all low margin stuff only. Also majority of AMD powered laptops are already on the low end category, which doesn’t make much difference at all.

    There are Chromebooks running on ARM chips also (e.g.: Acer Chromebook 13). Additionaly Intel still has ARM license…

  2. Yeah the other FIVE X86 manufacturers are making them work… Oh, wait…

  3. Chromebooks are silently getting more market share: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Is-Taking-a-Beating-from-Linux-Powered-Chromebooks-470607.shtml Additionally its picking up more momentum: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150203PD213.html quotes…

    “There were 5.5-6.5 million Chromebooks shipped globally in 2014 and shipments in 2015 are expected to grow to 12-14 million units, according to Taiwan-based notebook vendors.”

    Besides Intel chips, there are ARM based Samsung Exynos (e.g.: http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/chrome-os-devices/XE503C12-K02US ) and Nvidia Tegra (e.g.: http://www.slashgear.com/hp-chromebook-14-g3-arrives-with-touchscreen-tegra-k1-22360313/ ) chips used in Chromebooks.

    As for Intel’s ARM chips, check these videos out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYBJYT656C0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq3KruwSQgI
    Also besides Chromebooks, there are Android laptops as well (e.g: http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/21/hp-slatebook-14-review/ ). Goes to show that there are many more players in the laptop market..

  4. ImpedingMadness

    Nope, not really. It is already hard to find good AMD based laptop. Most OEM ratio should be around Intel:AMD = 8:2 and most of them are rubbish in term of spec, cut off everywhere. Chromebook although nice but still a niche market and as you already mentioned, chromebook also have ARM counterpart which make it harder competition.
    The price is already low even without AMD jumping to the wagon. Rather than chromebook, they are better off selling laptop with no OS at all. They can’t afford to bleed anymore money.

  5. The main point is that any mobile chip can be used for Chromebooks. Its not that difficult to divert a batch of laptops to use Chromium OS instead of Microsoft Windows (does not matter if those laptops have low end or high end specifications). For example: Google’s Chromebook Pixel is pretty high end: http://www.google.com/chrome/devices/google-chromebook-pixel/ with 2560×1700 resolution, IPS panel, touch screen and Intel Core i5…

    Chromium is open source: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os thus it cost next to nothing actually (which makes Chromebooks much cheaper). There are already laptops using other free open source operating systems like FreeDOS, Linux, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. For example: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00GIVX0FM/htpcbeg-20 which runs Ubuntu. Can install other operating systems inside these laptops. For example: http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01545904 quotes…

    “HP notebook PCs sold with FreeDOS are intended for customers who have a license for and a capability to install their own, additional operating system if desired. You are responsible for obtaining the license for any additional software you install.”

    And without Intel’s initiative, there wouldn’t be any x86 Chromebooks and ARM would have totally dominated this segment (like ARM did with smartphones and tablets): For example: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2834764/arm-vs-intel-why-chipmakers-want-your-chromebooks-brains.html is about ARM vs Intel in Chromebooks. There is a window of opportunity for other x86 chips such as those from AMD as well. Additionally Chromebooks are gaining more traction: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20150203PD213.html quotes…

    “There were 5.5-6.5 million Chromebooks shipped globally in 2014 and shipments in 2015 are expected to grow to 12-14 million units, according to Taiwan-based notebook vendors.”

    Also be aware of ARM powered laptops running Android as well, for example: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2357501/hp-brings-android-to-laptops-with-slatebook-pc.html This may pose an even bigger threat, especially since Microsoft Office has been ported to Android: http://products.office.com/en-us/mobile/office-android-tablet Also Intel has seen that coming earlier: http://www.cnet.com/news/android-notebooks-yep-intel-says-and-theyll-only-cost-200/ That is why Intel has been keen to fully support other operating systems like Android and Chromium OS. For example: http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-tabbook-11-brings-together-intel-keyboard-and-android-unholy-matrimony It just seems to me that AMD’s management is simply clueless or just incompetent (in keeping pace with competition on many areas)…

  6. Results of AMD’s shortsightedness and dependance on Microsoft Windows-based laptops can clearly be seen: http://seekingalpha.com/article/3442706-intel-wins-from-surging-sales-of-chromebooks quotes…

    http://static.cdn-seekingalpha.com/uploads/2015/8/19553521_14396955966100_0.jpg

    Also from here: http://www.jonpeddie.com/publications/market_watch quotes…

    “AMD’s shipments of desktop heterogeneous GPU/CPUs, i.e., APUs, increased 25.0% from the previous quarter, and were down -53.5% in notebooks. “