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Advanced Micro Devices may be working on a new accelerated processing unit that belongs to the current-generation of its hybrid microprocessors. The AMD A10-7870K chip has not been announced yet, but it could hit the market in the coming weeks or even days.
AMD is expected to release its new breed of APUs known as “Godavari” (or “Kaveri Refresh”) in mid-2015. Although the new chips will belong to AMD’s A-series 8000-sequence family, they will rely on the same code-named “Kaveri” design with up to four “Steamroller” x86 cores, Radeon graphics engine based on the GCN 1.1 architecture with up to 512 stream processors, a dual-channel DDR3 memory controller and HSA [heterogeneous system architecture] capabilities. The APUs will use FM2+ form-factor and will likely be drop-in compatible with existing mainboards.
Apparently, before launching a new product line, AMD wants to refresh the current one with the A10-7870K Black Edition APU, reports ComputerBase citing a web-site of a German retailer. Select price search engines are also listing AMD’s 10-7870K chips with AD787KXDJCBOX part number. The price of the new APU is €176, which is similar to that of the A10-7850K.
To date, AMD’s fastest “Kaveri” accelerated processing unit has been the model A10-7850K, which operates at 3.70GHz default clock-speed and has Turbo Boost frequency of 4.0GHz. The new A10-7870K is expected to be faster than its predecessor, but exact specifications are unknown.
AMD did not comment on the news-story.
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KitGuru Says: It is completely unclear why AMD decided to add another processor to the lineup that is about to be replaced by a new family of products. Perhaps, the company is planning a price-cut in the coming weeks and needs a higher-end model to maintain its current average selling prices?
honestly this is a waste of time for AMD. I am waiting for next gen FX or AM4 socket or whatever name they want to give to the next gen CPUs. I still own a phenom II x4 955 and honestly amd has nothing that can offer a decent improvement from K10. The TDP of most of their performance CPUs are either 95w or 125w and still offer about the same core per core performance compared to K10.
You didn’t know that the Am socket and the Fx seies is dead now? there will be no new AM socket. Only new FM2+ and Fm3 sockets for their new Cpus bro. They’re dropping the CMT style of processing and going with an intel like SMT style
Your best bet is a cheap second hand Thuban, because we will see nothing REALLY new on desktop for at least a year.
Well as long as they release something aimed for gaming. If directx 12 removes the need for high performance CPUs to play games then a good multithread CPU will be good. I like the sound of a 65w octa core based on kabini with higher clocks and dual channel memory.
I slightly agree, Kaveri’s strength is in being able to have good performance at a low tdp the hard to find FX-7600p(Performance 35W Laptop APU) according to the few bench’s there are of it, really isn’t terribly far away from the 7850K, same goes with the 65W A10-7800, Kaveri is actually a really nice product, however as far as average Desktop use goes, it’s not really a major step up, and I doubt a 100 or 200MHz upgrade will do much to change that.
However, as far as your Phenom II X4 955 goes, compared to a similar TDP FX – 8350
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=697
There’s definitely an upgrade to be had, not to mention the instruction sets which usually isn’t a problem, but I did see someone who had to upgrade from Phenom to FX in order to get Oculus Rift to work properly.
Not long ago I took the plunge and went from my own Phenom II X4 965BE to the FX(8350, then later to a 9590), and it really is an upgrade, sure it’s not like back in the day when you went from a single core processor to a Dual core and noticed a major improvement in everything possible, but the extra cores/threads make the overall experience a better one, and in case of being on a Phenom II you would see an improvement in everything, even singlethreaded performance as the FX is higher clocked.
AMD latest gaming aimed CPU has to be the FX 9590, and yeah the TDP is kind of crazy, but I honestly don’t mind that, I remember when 300W PSU’s where considered crazy, when I first upgraded to a 650W PSU in 2008 it was crazy, when would we ever need so much power? in 2013 after 5 years I upgraded to 1200W PSU, the most sold PSU’s on the HW sites I buy from tend to be in the 700-800W range, there’s definitely room for crazy ideas like 200+W CPU’s, as long as they can idle it really shouldn’t be a major issue electricity wise.
Thuban was great, and if you’re on one you’re probably still quite pleased with it, but the 8 core FX’s are overall quite a bit better.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/203?vs=697
Based on what a friend of mine was telling me – he gone from a 4GHz(OC) 1100T to a 4.6GHz(OC) 8320, the FX processors are hotter than Thuban and whatever extra gains you get, do not justify the change. If you are building a new system today and you can’t find a cheap Thuban, you do prefer an 8 core FX over a closely priced Thuban, but going from Thuban to FX or paying a good premium over a Thuban for an FX, I thing it’s not justified.
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thats not a fair comparison the 1100t was most likely tested with completely different hardware setup (its older e.g tested with older gpu)
I’d rather see new coding standards and the likes for the game industry as programming for games and graphics only gotten more redundant and less efficient with all the premade goods.
Alas its all about low cost low effort and high profits.
I have an APU mini-itx system, I wish they had a faster 65w part I can replace my A10-7800 with
I can’t imagine any configuration that isn’t something ludicrous like 256MB ram, that would limit the 1100T so much. The FX is an improvement, IPC is irrelevant really when FX hits much higher speeds at the same TDP, and generally is a lot more future proof.
In any case afaik the Anandtech comparison doesn’t compare games unless they share the same GPU, in case of the game benchmarks, it’s mainly the CPU ones we should care about.
I disagree if AMD releases this as a DX12 capable APU. Since it is GCN 1.1 then DX12 is possible.
If it is DX11.3 then you are likely correct why bother?
I think Kabini (Jaguar cores) are the future. An athlon 5350 is comparable to a Q6600. If Amd used the energy efficiency of Kabini and made octa-cores (like the ones found in PS4 and XBOX1) that would be great. Imagine a 3GHz octa-core at 65w. Kaveri has better single core performance that Vishera and achieves it at 95w but still lacks lvl 3 cache.
I have owned the A10-5800k, Athlon 750k, FX 6300, FX 8320, Phenom II X3 710, intel G3528, and intel i3 4160. From all of those the one with the best gaming experience was the intel i3 4160 followed by the FX 8320 (which I OC to 4.6GHz). The most shocking for me was that I was getting better fps on the intel g3528 than on the amd quads. I always sell my systems and buy other stuff. The reason I got a Phenom II X4 955 is because i bought an old amd computer for $100 (8GB DDR2 ram, TA790GXE mobo, ThermalMaster case, Phenom II4 955) then I upgraded the PSU to an EVGA 430W and got a sweat deal on an Asus R7 260x for $50.
I am currently gaming on a dell 19″ 1440×900 monitor so I run all games at decent settings. I have had so many different systems in the last 2 years.
btw if any of you got some old lga 775 mobos you dont want I would be happy to either buy it($30 max) or accept it as an offering from the gods. I am currently trying to build an intel core2duo/quad system just to mess around.
believe it will be worth having one of these Kodavari with DX12 games with high performance rates with a very good price
looks like the AM4 and FX series are not dead after all
They will unify sockets, it doesn’t matter if they call it FM3 or AM4.
The “unify socket” idea was to be able to use 20nm x86 Nolan cores and ARM Amur cores in a single socket but was scrapped. Now AMD is going to make all their CPUs with the 14nm Finfet Zen cores and the AM4 socket.
I’m taking about mid and high end CPU and APUs, not the low-power ones. They will unify the FMx and AMx lines in only one with DDR4. So is the same if they call it FM3 or AM4. Probably it will be more like FM2+, seems FMx sockets always integrated all the northbridge parts (including PCI-E controller and of course IGP) into the same die, and they only need a southbridge (new CPU/APUs are going to be SoC, but the socketed versions are going to keep using an external southbridge with more features than the integrated one for mobiles)
Indeed, now I am going to finally build a good 8 core itx or matx machine. Part of what I dislike about current am3+ platform was the size. I believe Intel also integrated the north bridge into the CPU die so its only natural AMD will follow as that would reduce the new platform footprint. I think AMD should try Intel’s tick-tock model, they stocked too long to their dreadful bulldozer CMT cores. It was like Intel’s failure with netburst.
AMD is always behind in the TDP/ performance per watt game. But then again they aim for the budget market. Usually, their flagship processors don’t even rival the Intel i5 line and in many cases the i3’s even. So, for what you pay it’s okay performance but you may as well have the better efficiency and lower heat by going with a low level i3. AMD just has the better graphics.