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AMD reportedly has priority supply agreement regarding HBM, HBM2

The first-generation high-bandwidth memory provides extreme performance, but is clearly not perfect for high-end graphics cards due to capacity limitations. A good news is that second-gen high-bandwidth memory is on the way and is due in 2016. Advanced Micro Devices may get it faster and in higher volumes than its arch-rival Nvidia Corp. The only question is when exactly HBM2 is set to be available.

HBM2 to solve HBM's problems

One of the key drawbacks of the first-generation high-bandwidth memory (HBM) is its low capacity. At present, it is impossible to install more than 4GB of HBM on a single-GPU graphics card, which was not a good news for AMD’s Radeon R9 Fury-series adapters. SK Hynix, AMD, JEDEC and a number of other industry players are working on the second-gen high-bandwidth memory (HBM 2), which will solve a lot of problems, including capacity-related. Moreover, Advanced Micro Devices may benefit from priority supply agreement it reportedly has with SK Hynix.

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The first-generation HBM (HBM1) stacks four DRAM dies with two 128-bit channels per die on a base logic die, creating a memory device with a 1024-bit interface. Each channel supports 1Gb capacities (2Gb per die), features 8 banks and can operate at 1Gb/s data-rate (1GHz effective DDR clock-rate). As a result, each HBM 4Hi stack (4 high stack) package can provide 1GB capacity and 128GB/s memory bandwidth. The second-generation HBM (HBM2) utilizes 8Gb dies with two 128-bit channels featuring 16 banks and sporting up to 2Gb/s data-rates (2GHz effective DDR frequency). The architecture of the HBM2 will let manufacturers built not only 4Hi stack (4 high stack) packages, but also 2Hi stack and 8Hi stack devices. As a result, memory producers will be able to assemble HBM2 memory chips with up to 8GB capacity (8Hi stack) and up to 256GB/s bandwidth (2Gb/s data rate, 1024-bit bus). Architectural advantages of HBM2 will allow GPU developers to use it not only for ultra-high-end applications with 4096-bit memory bus, but also for adapters that do not require extreme performance.

The industry needs HBM2

Advanced Micro Devices has already announced that it would use HBM memory going forward for a broad range of its ICs [integrated circuits], including graphics processing units and accelerated processing units. Right now, the company is working on its all-new family of graphics processing units based on the next iteration of GCN architecture with increased power efficiency and performance. AMD’s next high-end GPU code-named “Greenland” will be made using 16nm or 14nm FinFET process technology, which will help AMD to considerably increase transistor and stream processor counts compared to the code-named “Fiji” (AMD Radeon R9 Fury-series). As a result, “Greenland” will require more advanced memory and AMD plans to use HBM2 for it.

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Nvidia will also produce its code-named “Pascal” chips using TSMC's 16nm FinFET process technology and will also dramatically boost transistor count vs. existing graphics processing unit. It is expected that Nvidia's code-named GP100 chip will also need a high-end memory sub-system, presumably based on HBM2. At least, Nvidia officially revealed plans to use “3D memory” with “Pascal”.

Supply agreement

Since AMD has been a key developer of both HBM and HBM2, there is a contract in place that gives AMD priorities in terms of supply, according to WccfTech. While the terms of the agreement are unknown, typically such agreements mean that SK Hynix has to meet AMD’s requirements first and only then ship its chips to other customers. Theoretically, this could give AMD “an edge against its main rival, Nvidia, going into the next generation of GPUs featuring second-generation HBM technology.”

Supply agreements are usually signed in a bid to ensure priority treatment, high volumes and good prices. For example, Apple usually signs supply agreements to ensure that it gets what it needs from its suppliers and at low costs. AMD's share in the GPU market is pretty low these days and it may simply not need a lot of HBM2 chips for its launch next year.

HBM2 is still not quite there yet

Earlier this year SK Hynix demonstrated a 300mm wafer with HBM2 chips on it, which is an indicator that the company is testing such products internally, but this does not give any idea about when the HBM2 is ready for mass production.

At present SK Hynix uses 29nm manufacturing technology to manufacture HBM memory chips. According to roadmap leaked by SemiAccurate some time ago, the company plans to use its 21nm fabrication process to produce HBM2 sometimes in Q1 or Q2 2016. SK Hynix’s transition to 21nm is generally considered to be slow, which means that actual launch timeframe may be slightly delayed.

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SK Hynix thoroughly lists all of its products – current, future and even some EOLed – in its catalogue that is updated every quarter. It is well known, which of SK Hynix’s chips are available, which will be available in Q1 or Q2 2016 and which will be sampled in Q1 2016. At present, SK Hynix does not list HBM2 anywhere, which may be a matter of trade secrets. However, back in 2014, the company did list first-gen HBM chips as “sampling” in Q3 and as “available” in Q4. At the present time, nothing is known about availability or sampling of HBM2 chips, which may indicate that their availability timeframe is not exactly clear.

AMD and SK Hynix did not comment on the news-story.

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KitGuru Says: Without any doubts, HBM may have certain teething problems, but nobody is talking about them publicly because of commercial reasons. Before the problems get solved, it is unlikely that SK Hynix or other producers of memory start to manufacture HBM2 in higher volumes.

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13 comments

  1. Really, Anton? You’re quoting and linking wccftech as your source? I mean that’s literally one step up from “I made this up out of thin air” because that’s kinda what THEY do.

    It’s like the New York Times running a cover story sourced entirely from an article in the National Enquirer.

    Kitguru is better than that.

  2. If that is true then SkHynix is going the wrong way because AMD is part of the past already. SKHynix will lose big customers like Qualacom, Nvidia, IBM and many others so they have a small window until Samsung, Intel, Crucial and others start Building their HBM 2 or maybe 3 and then it is all lost. Think about Snapdragon 9xx with HBM or Nvidia Quadro or Tesla or even Grid with HBM or an IBM Power 9 with HBM. What can AMD offer SKHynix to lose the likes of Qualacom and Nvidia to the likes of Samsung and Crucial, AMD will only drag them down just like how ATi dragged AMD down.

  3. florent trepanier

    you are talking out of your ass amd was competitive in graphic department til end 2014… when nvidia got 970 out at great price and power consumption it took amd one year time frame to get a competitive product and right now amd got better product then nvidia except 980 ti and right now cpu/apu department is what drag amd down

  4. At first why are you so angry and attacked out of blue. I was not talking about Nvidia despite the fact that Nvidia control about 77.5% of consumers market and dominate the professional and HPC markets. I was talking about SK lose big brands including Nvidia to the competitors due to the exclusive agreement.

  5. They won’t though. HBM is owned by SK Hynix and AMD. The competitors can’t make it without SK Hynix granting them a license to make it, unless they want to get sued for patent violations and have a court force them to stop making it while the suit is pending.

    If Nvidia wants it, they have to go to SK Hynix to get it. If Intel wants it, they have to go to SK Hynix to get it. Patents are funny that way.

  6. In fact the name maybe belongs to SKHynix but the idea of memory on the chip die is not something new and many chips have memory on die with various approaches so it’s just matter of time until the giant competitors find something alike and we will see the story of Rambus vs DDR again

  7. wccftech has been improving lately, Can’t say the same for guru3d.

  8. Well that would depend an awful lot on how similar to patented HBM the competitor approaches are. If they’re similar enough, SK Hynix could absolutely take them to court and have an injunction issued to force them to stop production. I suspect most of the competitors to Hynix would avoid trying to develop a copycat technology for specifically that reason.

    As for the Rambus vs DDR thing, well, I kinda think we already had that with HBM vs HMC. Nvidia abandoned HMC when they realized it wasn’t going to be suitable for GPUs and is now just waiting for their chance to be able to use HBM.

  9. Pshaw.

    Even Fudzilla (where Fuad *literally* and *provably* makes stuff up) is better than wccftech. And don’t even get me started on wccf’s comment threads – purely disgusting.

  10. In fact Nvidia is not the problem because GPU market in small in comparison to ARM and other growing markets. So memory on CPU/GPU die for faster, smaller and more power saving applications is the next step. Qualacom need it to stay relevant in phone market Intel need it for better cluster servers CPUs , Nvidia need it to joint Pascal and NVLink for HPC and and Neural AI also we have IBM, Samsung and many others so it should be a standard like DDR1,2,3,4,5 or it will be like RDRam as one cycle’s king of the hill and a page in history books in the next cycles.

  11. still better then guru3d.

  12. Barely.

  13. TheGoodBadWeird

    HBM was researched by SK Hynix and CO-Developed with AMD and JEDEC (JESD235). It is no exclusive proprietary tech as i.e. RAMBUS. High Bandwidth Memory has been adopted by JEDEC as an industry standard in October 2013.

    For now SK Hynix will be the only manufacturer, but the other big industry manufacturers as Samsung & Co. will follow soon.