All of the KitGuru team are enthusiast users, just like our readers. We buy hardware every year and for the most part it is a pain free, sometimes even pleasant experience. No feeling can beat upgrading that new video card, or adding a new motherboard and processor. But what happens when it goes wrong ? and like everything in life, you can be sure that sometimes it will.
Matthew Wilson, one of our editorial team bought a new Acer XB270HU Predator Nvidia G-Sync monitor from retailer ARIA, shown HERE on their store. ARIA are a local Manchester retailer for Matthew, so he thought it was easier buying here.
When he fired it up, all seemed to be well – until he noticed that there was a dead pixel, slam in the central part of the screen. You can recap on the original story over HERE. When Matthew drove the screen to ARIA a few streets away, the sales guy refused to replace it, claiming ‘up to 19 dead pixels’ on a 27 inch 2560×1440 monitor was considered acceptable.
This opened a hornets nest – is this really how customers are being treated when they bring in faulty goods? It seems this grey area of ‘it is not really faulty if there are some dead pixels, you can still use it afterall' has been letting companies and retailers get away with less than perfect products. Is it right? would you be happy accepting even a small fault after spending £550? What about up to 19 dead sectors on a new hard drive? Is that acceptable too?
When Matthew asked for a refund as he found the dead pixel too distracting the representative told him that he could indeed have a refund, but ARIA would claim 25% of the £550 asking price – or £137.50 in total. Perhaps this is a restocking fee? Matthew didn't argue or even tell the representative at the time that he wrote for a popular technology publication in the UK – he simply took the screen home and called me to relay the whole experience. After all, he was simply a customer buying a new, expensive gaming screen. What protection did a punter really have?
During the conversation, we discussed that if other monitors exhibited dead pixels, then it would cost £137.50 each time he would ask for a refund – with the end goal of getting a monitor which exhibited ‘no dead pixels'. That is a pretty expensive policy for ARIA to put in place.
Our initial story published on Saturday received over 50,000 views and hundreds of our readers commented in the public thread – detailing their own experiences with retailers. It wasn't all negative, some retailers seemed to have a more supportive policy for their customers. Many readers posted good feedback for retailers such as SCAN and Overclockers UK. A few even said that their local dealers had taken the screen out of the box in store to check for dead pixels. That is truly commendable in my book – that is the kind of store you would want to come back to again.
I have sent out emails to various stores today and we await their own feedback, especially as it would appear that the UK has a new '30 day refund' law in place, implemented on the 1st October – or 4 days ago. You can read about this new law HERE.
After Matthew emailed ARIA highlighting our story and explaining he was a writer for KitGuru they replied via email which we post here today verbatim:-
‘It has come to our attention, the Acer Predator XB270HU Gaming Monitor is not meeting the expected satisfactory requirements of our customers. Despite it falling under the manufacturer’s acceptable guidelines for the number of dead pixels, here at Aria, we want to help.
For that reason, we have withdrawn the monitor from sale. If you have received your monitor and found it to have any dead or stuck pixels, then we have 2 options available for you.
Option 1 – Refund
Should your monitor have any dead/stuck pixels and you no longer want to take the chance that another one will be fine, please reply to this email with a date and time when you will be available and we will arrange a collection from you and give you a full refund via your original payment method.
Option 2 – Alternative Replacement
If you've received your monitor with dead/stuck pixels, and would like an alternative monitor, please reply with the quickcode of your preferred replacement and I’ll arrange for it to be sent out and the difference refunded by your original payment method. The driver will collect your faulty monitor at the same time so please advise a date and time convenient to yourself.
Here at Aria, we can only apologise for the inconvenience, and most likely, the frustration that this issue may have caused you.
We hope that in taking this unprecedented step for a small retailer, your faith in Aria as your number one computer supplier is restored and we can long-continue to be your number one choice for all of your computer needs.
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Kind Regards
Nick Frost
Key Accounts Manager'
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ARIA say they have withdrawn this particular monitor from sale and are offering Matthew a full replacement or refund – without the 25% charge he was told he would have to pay in store on Saturday.
Perhaps Aria have changed their policy since Saturday, or perhaps that 25% ‘refund/restock' charge should never have been there in the first place. Are there problems with the ACER monitor and its only came to a head today? Why remove it from sale entirely?
We do urge all our readers if you have ever had to deal with poor customer service or have been told something you thought ‘could not be legally enforceable' please do let me know. email me at [email protected] and we can follow up with you. We do hope that replacing a faulty product isn't seen as an ‘unprecedented step' for any retailer in the future – regardless of how they might like to try and spin it.
Discuss on our Facebook page, over HERE.
Kitguru say: Matthew has been offered a replacement, or a refund without the claimed 25% charge. But is this the power of the media rather than fixing a customer relations mistake? Do let us know if you have had any problems with any retailer. These kind of practices do need ‘named and shamed'.
I’d say this is indeed the power of the media, if it were me i’d still be banging my head against a wall trying to get a replacement. At least I know never to buy anything from Aria now.
This is definitely because of the backlash they’ve gotten from Kitguru posting this article up. I’m glad ARIA was named and shamed, I’m not ever going to buy from ARIA again despite their updated stance on this issue.
Aria isn’t the only one though that lacks in customer support/delivering goods that work as described.. glad to see that you guys want to help those who need it!
I don’t think it matters why they offered the refund/exchange, the important thing is that they made the right decision in the end. Personally I have bought a fair bit from Aria and never once had a problem. I will still continue to use them with the only difference being that if anything happens in the future I will threaten them with a Kitguru story if I am not happy 😛 (that last bit was a joke by the way, incase some of you didn’t get that).
It is good that this finally got sorted out but you never said if he took the refund or chose another monitor. If he picked the latter which one did he get ?
I ended up going for the refund in the end! I’m still planning on buying this monitor but I’ll be getting it from somewhere that will be more co-operative should I encounter similar issues.
It’s not the retailer, it’s the manufacturer that determines what’s acceptable in terms of dead pixels. ISO 9241 covers this, and by and large most retail monitors are classified as Class 1 panels and are allowed:
1 full bright (“stuck on white”) pixel
1 full dark (“stuck off”) pixel
2 single or double bright or dark sub-pixels
but can still be classed as acceptable. Some manufacturers have better return policies, Viewsonic always used to be the best (been a while since I bought a monitor off them though), with a zero tolerance of dead pixels in 30 days from purchase.
Best bet is a return under the distance selling act- most you’d have to pay would be the postage.
Never buy from ARIA. Simple as. Good work KitGuru.
Thanks for letting us know. It is a shame that it took a lot of effort to get your issue sorted out especially in light of recent law changes. But hope you find your monitor, hassle free this time 🙂
even a fraction of 1% under perfection, is not acceptable . Tech products tend to be pricey so 100% perfection is the base line , If it’s not right it goes back for refund /exchange
Its not Aria’s policy its Acers policy. 16 dead pixels is right.
http://www.acer.co.in/ac/en/IN/content/dead-pixel
If you want some Acer horror stories then read this
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18646996
and this
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18659327&highlight=startername_varkanoid
I agree. This is not an Aria specific issue, it is normal for a retailer not to swap because of dead pixels! Says in the article that Overclockers UK have no problems replacing stuff but they follow the above criteria aswell. Good to hear that Scan have a no quibble swap policy in place for dead/bright/stuck pixels, will certainly be ordering my monitors from them in future, only if they confirm to me they’ll swap if there’s pixel problems first though.
Fair play to Aria in my opinion. They fucked up and then rectified their mistake.
We’ll never know if their normal levels of customer service are as per the letter or as per the original response, and if a normal customer would get the same levels of service, but as far as retailers fixing their mistakes go then this is one of the better examples I’ve seen.
At the end of the day, everyone is human, including the sales person who dealt with the issue in the first place.
I’d be quite happy to buy from Aria if I didn’t live over 4000 miles away 🙂 (oh, and the little indie retailers can give some of the best levels of customer service once you get to know the guys there)
I worked there for 3 years
I worked there for 3 years
Sounds more like they didn’t like people giving them a bit of a bashing of their reluctance to help the fella out. With the views Kitguru gets the last thing they need is bad press, especially in this difficult competitive economy.
Well done to ‘Matthew’ for sticking in there though most people would just accept it. Hopefully next time he’ll have a better ‘tech buying experience.’