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ACCC wants court to fine Valve $3 million

Since 2014, Australia's consumer rights group, the ACCC, has been hammering down on Valve due to the ‘no refunds' policy that was enforced on Steam prior to June 2015. In fact, this court case is likely one of the major catalysts that forced Valve into implementing its current refunds policy. Despite last year's changes to Steam, back in March of this year, an Australian court found Valve guilty of breaking the country's laws and now, the ACCC wants Valve to pay a $3 million fine.

The fine is supposed to cover the time period from 2011 to 2014, before Valve's new refund policy was implemented. At a hearing regarding the case against Valve this week, the ACCC argued (via Kotaku) that a $3 million should be used “in order to achieve both specific and general deterrents, and also because of the serious nature of the conduct”.

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The crux of the argument revolves around Valve's senior management being directly involved in Steam's violation of Australian consumer law, with the Steam Subscriber Agreement specifically stating that a no refund policy was in place for a number of years. Valve's defence during this case has been the fact that they are based in Seattle, essentially the company thinks of itself as “an American company doing business in America” but just so happens to have customers in other parts of the world.

Since the court did not rule that Valve intended to mislead or deceive its Australian customers, Valve is now arguing that the proposed $3 million fine be reduced to $250,000 instead.

KitGuru Says: While most are happy with Steam's new refund policy, we can't forget that Valve operated on its old anti-consumer policy for many years and these legal proceedings began before the new system was put into place, which is why the ACCC is continuing to push the issue. Do you guys think Valve still needs to be punished over its old ‘no refunds' policy? Or should legal ramifications be dropped due to the new policy?

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4 comments

  1. Did you know it’s a crime in parts of America to have your kids selling lemonade at the side of the road now? Laws can be retarded.

    In the name of freedom, I should be allowed to sell a shit sammitch if I want, AND WITHOUT REFUNDS even if they don’t like it. But you can’t lie about it claiming it’s going to be amazing, cure cancer, or such nonsense. When you lie like this you owe them back. No Man’s Sky is a great example of SNAKE OIL SALESMAN in gaming, and they owe a lot of people their money back. They darn well knew they were trying to imply it had multiplayer, and the kind of multiplayer people really wanted, amongst many other misleading fairy tales about their game.

    and if you think I am wrong about NO Man’s Sky then you need to just watch this– https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVrDaudzn64

    So this case of VALVE vs AUSSIE

    It depends.

    Does valve have assets in aussie, like servers, offices and such. What kind if any trade agreementscontracts or such do they have with aussie. It’s possible they have to abide by this law pending on such things. If it’s just a case of aussies using an American service and valve doesn’t owe them ANYTHING but a swift kick in the arse.

    Most of us don’t know enough to judge on this. Corporations lie, and so do lawyers and agencies. If valve pays this, who gets the money even? The lawyer teamagency against them probably.

    Now if you’ll all excuse me, I got Shit Sammitches to make.

  2. Good – I hope Valve also get taken to court in the UK for past and current breaches of the UK Consumer Rights Act 2015. Valve need to accept that if they trade in foreign countries then they need to abide by their trading laws.

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  4. They’ll haggle it down to a basically meaningless figure and things will blow over. Even $3m is a fairly small amount of pocket change in the grand scheme of things.