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If you are still hanging on for AMD to release its first Ryzen CPU before upgrading your system, then it looks like you won't need to wait much longer as reports this week indicate that the launch will be happening before the 3rd of March. AMD has been showing off Ryzen in detail since its event in December but it looks like the official launch could be happening late next month.
AMD hasn't let the exact launch date out of the bag. However, Anandtech has managed to narrow it down quite a bit by taking a look at the description for AMD's Ryzen CPU optimization panel at GDC. The panel description reads: “Join the AMD Game Engineering team members for an introduction to the recently-launched AMD Ryzen CPU followed by advanced optimization topics.”
So it appears that Ryzen will have ‘recently launched' by the time the Game Developer Conference takes place. GDC kicks off on the 27th of February this year and ends on the 3rd of March, at the time of writing, AMD's panel has not been given an exact time/date in the GDC schedule, so it could take place at any point in that time frame.
Either way though, it looks like we can expect more Ryzen news in late February and early March, so if you are itching for a system upgrade, you know when to keep an eye out.
KitGuru Says: I am really looking forward to seeing what people think of Ryzen when it lands in the next few weeks. Are any of you guys planning on picking up a Ryzen CPU? Do you think it will live up to the hype?
Nope, and Nope.
I think it will be a fair part, and at an ok price. Nothing amazing or groundbreaking. AMD fans will disagree and that’s fine. We’ll see in time who’s right.
Excavator was to dig a landfill
Bulldozer was to push the dirt over Zen to bury it.
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Would intel really jack up prices if AMD died? I don’t think so. People say “they had huge prices back in the 90” but that’s an odd thing to say considering the K6 wasn’t cheap either. All good processors were expensive back then, had little to do with this false perception of monopoly! And back then 1000 bucks was a lot more money then it is now. Am I wrong on this?
Next consider that if intel did start charging 1000 bucks for an i5, non of us would upgrade, at least not for 5 or 10 years when there is real progress, so they wouldn’t really make out that good from doing that. Who needs to upgrade if you already have a haswell or newer these days? It’s all about GPU if you want more FPS in games.
I look forward to after ZEN is out so all the hype can die down.. so people can realize CPU’s are boring again, and that we are entering a new drought where we won’t see video cards upgrade for a very very long time. 7nm GPUS are forever away but we need that power NOW! Stinking 8k video, ever more polygons, physics, VR, textures so HD that when you stop playing the game you look around and say “DAAAAAAAANG! Graphics in real life are blurry!”
We need major technological breakthroughs. RYZEN is not that, and neither is Kaby lake.
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I’ll tell you what is innovative.. The new Zen native HSA/hUMA hybrid CPU/GPU APUs.. With Zen designed to work in the new APU architecture, GPU and CPU cores will run independently scheduled and the GPU cores will use paging memory (HBM2, etc.). Add Vega and its new memory controller and you have a huge high-performance system capable of big processings.
Intel will license AMDs new architectural designs in the same way they currently license x86-64 bit. Intel is year behind a native HSA architecture and Intel does not have high end GPU IP or technology to create one.. Intel failed miserably when it tried project LARRABBEE and had to abandon the project and license NVIDIA IP, which double cross Intel and got a lot of money from it.
Intel can build great hardware with AMD’s new architectural IP, and even more, if they joined forces (and Intel not backstabing AMD), they both can make x86-64 the new king in all kinds of computing and graphics. If Intel does not support AMD, AMD will continue to go the ARM way and ARM will kill x86 at the long run since it is a lot cheaper and is getting a higher performance every year with brand new architectures.
I just sold off my FX-8320 waiting for Ryzen to release, I can see your point of view from an Intel user perspective where your CPU already measure’s up to an acceptable standard for hardcore gaming, but when AMD’s 8-core CPU’s were beaten by i5’s for quiet awhile with it all about to change very soon, it’s easy to understand where this hype is coming from. A 16-threaded 95w CPU beat the 140w Intel 6900k. It’s not just about gaming, there’s other uses for a CPU such when it comes to video and photo editing, VM’s and programming. Being more power efficient and offering better performance however little is worth much more to a lot of people and businesses and if Ryzen comes in at a much cheaper price, even better
Intel is slowly and steadily advancing stuff, 1st generation of 14nm chips clocked poorly. 2nd generation clocked much better, and 3rd time round they clock much better again and at a lower voltage and more efficient, while lowering power consumption at the same time it was increasing IPC (little by little).
AMD on the other hand, has had this rather inefficient Bulldozer (and its relatives) architecture which it’s pushed more volts and higher clocks into while on the same node, with tiny improvements to the front end of the chip which helped the IMC achieve better memory clocks (which is still far behind intel), and other bits.
AMD has not released anything new for a good few years, just refreshed parts clocked higher and melt more motherboard VRMS.
AMD cannot come up with something that will outright beat Intel’s chips clock per clock, it’s about equal to Broadwell in IPC, which while good, is still ~5-10% behind Intels current Kaby Lake, and who knows how it will overclock.
It can compete on the lower price area with good performance, but not in raw performance.
You are missing that RyZen is a completly new processor architecture with similar IPC than Intels best and a better overall architecture that is just beginning to come up to life.. while Intel’s is an old architecture that is at the end of its life and just can’t be squeezed much any more. RyZen has a huge future in 2018 with the new high-performance bandwidth interconect that AMD will be releasing.
Not to mention that AMD’s APUs with Vega GPu architecture will be much higher performance than the baby graphics that Intel has for laptops.. that is why Intel has licensed AMD GPU technology and a lot more..
AMD is just starting its life at a high-performance level, while Intel’s current architecture is dying.
AMD Zen based APU’s will run optimally with no mastering from the CPU, which NVIDIA being just a GPU company can’t do it, unless Intel integrates NVIDIA’s GPUs natively into an HSA architecture, which will not happen. But AMD has everything Intel can desire in a x86-64 compatible HSA GPU architecture.
There is an inherent bottleneck in all CPU architectures that use discrete/integrated GPUs, which is why AMD has a brand new spanking hybrid processor architecture that runs natively and independently CPU and GPU cores in a single processor architecture. All others are running one or more GPUs in the same silicon package or on different packages.
AMD has a clear architectural design win that will take its stock price back to $20.00 – $40.00 and then to a potential $100.00+ since AMD is the only company that dips in two large profitable areas: high-end CPU’s and high-end GPU’s.. not counting AI, embedded, servers, etc..etc.. etc..
A monster in the making.. that is what AMD is..!!
I’m certainly interested to see how well this fares in consumer release but have already prepared a portion of my mind for disappointment to some degree or another. AMD needs a game breaker and I don’t know that this is it. It is a step in the right direction, however.
I’m still perfectly happy with my 8350 build and am not yet ready to abandon it as it’s fine for me and I’ve had zero disappointment in how it performs. Unless this new architecture totally blows me away, I’m standing pat.
A similar IPC to intels best? Hmm, Intel’s best from 2 generations ago.
Intel’s Graphics are powerful for what they are, the Iris 6100 has just 48 cores but keeps up with the much beefier 320 core $75 R7 240, not bad for a free bit of silicon attached to a CPU.
Intel’s GPUs are also pack a punch in OpenCL applications. They are surprisingly powerful for how few cores they have in them.
Intel has also dipped it’s toes in the HSA with their eDRAM on package, similar to HBM it’s an on package solution providing large bandwidth and a relatively huge cache, accessible by both the CPU and the iGPU.
Not only that but the iGPU no longer takes away system memory for dedicated use, instead it uses the same address space as the rest of the system memory.
Not saying Intel’s solution is better in any way, but you shout it out like AMD has all this stuff while Intel has nothing, well they both have their own solutions and methods for doing the same thing.
Oh wait, Zen is a completely new architecture with new SMT (1 core 2 threads)? Oh wait, yeah Intel definitely doesn’t have that in most of their chips as something called HyperThreading…
Sure you can put expensive memory, buses, etc. and squeeze more performance for a double of the price of the hardware.
That becomes unprofitable when other companies (like AMD, QUALCOM, Samsung, etc) can do that for a fraction of the price.
Intel benefited from owning the market (after backstabing AMD with some unethical business actions), but not any more. Intel with its current hardware prices is dead unless it produces cheaper stuff like AMD, Qualcom, APPLE, Samsung, etc. Its either AMD or ARM, which will take Intel profits.. AMD does both ARM and its one x86-64 extensions.
Intel can continue to charge $1000.00 for each high-end processor, but only stupid people will pay that if the same performance is obtained for $500.00 and even less, the new Zen based APU’s with HBM2, HSAm etc. will eat Intels chips in graphics performance and computational performance.
With Vega, its memory controller, and all subsequent GPU’s addressing 512 TB (TERABYTES) of memory from internal and external memory, AMD is posed to take or eat big chunks from the server business (most profitable for Intel, which will deflate fast if it happens), from high performance computing, etc.. etc.. etc.. Intel can’t come with something similar because they don’t own any high-end GPUs,
Intel just have laptop GPUs.. and there are too many patents that Intel does not have which prevents it even from trying again.. again.. they failed creating a high-end GPU with the dead Larrabbee project because it was a dead road for Intel..
you are sitting at sandy bridge class ipcs right now . might as well upgrade if it manages to match broad well .
arm will kill x86? xD ahahahaha
I compute with the red team but don’t like their graphics options. Still, I get your point.