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In a somewhat confusing move, this week Intel confirmed that its next 8th generation Core processors would remain on the 14nm node, despite previously saying that it would have 10nm ready to go later this year. Speaking at its annual investor day in California, Intel spoke about its plans for 8th gen, adding that it would be sticking with 14nm for its mainline CPUs for the fourth year in a row.
Earlier this year we saw the launch of Kaby Lake, which was the ‘Optimization' step in Intel's new three-stage ‘Process-Architecture-Optimization' release schedule, which replaced the old Tick-Tock cycle last year. By returning to 14nm for 8th generation, it seems that a fourth step is being added to Intel's cycle.
Due to this, Intel's 8th generation line up could be quite messy to figure out. 10nm Cannon Lake CPUs are now believed to be part of the Y-series for ultra low-power devices, meanwhile Coffee Lake will remain on the 14nm process and may form the rest of the 8th-generation line-up for laptops and eventually desktops.
Aside from that, Intel expects its 8th generation CPUs to be around 15 percent faster than Kaby Lake. We should start to hear more towards the second half of this year when Intel starts rolling out new processors. One thing is for sure though, as confirmed by Anandtech, Data Centers will get access to new nodes first.
KitGuru Says: It looks like desktop users will find themselves stuck on 14nm for another year, which does make me wonder how much of a boost we can really expect when going from 7th gen to 8th gen.
I am very happy to achieve these results, and I have a processor for a long time to play.
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Nice results and the temps seems pretty low, what cooler are you using?
Hi, I have a professional liquid refrigeration brand
EK-KIT S360.
Mounted this way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGnaDYrRl4k
liquid cooling and refrigeration are not at all same thing, one uses ambient temperature via liquid(oil, glycol, or water runs through the pipes, into the “block” then into a rad to help cool the liquid through air blowing on the rad) whereas other uses a compressor to cool the liquid REFRIGERANT capable to far BELOW ambient, high and low side pressure lines (refrigeration uses such liquids as freon, ammonia, liquid nitrogen and so forth)
The picture above that you linked show a standard liquid cooling block and “plastic” pipes, definitely not refrigeration, while higher end no doubt, though anything”pro” when comes to liquid cooling I would designate for workstations/servers/industrial that cost in the 1000s to tens of thousands range
EK while generally considered a “premium brand” for computer liquid cooling, in this case even they just say “EK-KIT S360 is a compact starter liquid cooling kit Designed for cases with limited space and a slim radiator in mind”
Those temps while ok, do not seem amazing for the price they seem to sell them at, wonder if it is the cpu block not allowing enough liquid go through to sink temperatures lower than that? or if the thin rad even though is a 360 not allowing to cool as well as it could seeing as it is “thin” Just saying 🙂
someone over at intel realized that it would be cheaper to just re-sell the same chips with better thermal paste for the next generation. there’s your 15% performance gains.
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15% ‘faster’ just means better boost clocks- but IDENTICAL IPC. Prior to Zen, AMD had to use the SAME trick in REBRANDING its later bulldozer parts.
If zen pans out (which now seems more than likely), Intel only has a megahertz war strategy- hoping like Nvidia (with GPUs) that it can clock significantly higher than AMD. Problem with a clock war is that Intel wanted to protect its obscene profits for its higher clocked and six core parts. It also wanted to save higher clocked chips for FUTURE generations on similar design/process in case clocks were all it had to offer for ‘improvement’ in the immediate future.
It is reasonable, for instance, to think Intel could currently hit 5GHz, with AMD stuck around 4GHz- which on paper is a 25% ‘advantage’ if both Zen and Intel ‘core’ score the same per clock, and cores and price are not taken into consideration. However, going above 5GHz to any real degree in the future looks most unlikely- so doing that would be the LAST boost bump Intel could rely on for ‘free’.
If Zen does match Intel IPC, we are going to be in a world of ‘dirty PR tricks’, where Intel will make Nvidia look like saints by comparison.