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MSI GTX460 HAWK Talon Attack Vs Powercolor HD5770 CrossFireX

The whole point of a Stealth Attack Weapon is that the opposition doesn't see it until it's far too late. No tell-tale plumes from the runway monitors, no early warning detection from the satellites and no incoming sound as the missile delivers its deadly payload.

By and large, the first indication of an enemy stealth attack is the phone ringing off the wall when an outsider tries to make contact, only to find that the entire base – and everyone on it – is already dead. These Talon Attacks are deadly in just that way.

It is a common misconception that you need to spend £400 on a new GFX to game at high resolution. Roll the clock back a decade and that might have beeen true, but today's middleweights pack a hell of a punch.

Around the £200 mark ($300 inc taxes) you can purchase a weapon's grade graphic card that will power its way through any engine at 1920×1200… even with AA and all of the other IQ settings cranked to the hilt.  It's time to behave like a fat kid locked in a sweet store overnight.

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nVidia's initial GTX460 cards blew us away when they launched. Now that chips have been cherry-picked, coolers improved and PCB designs perfected, we're seeing something amazing. No doubt, MSI has made the market very tricky for the upcoming AMD Radeon 6000 series cards. Could the GTX460 really be enough to keep nVidia in the hearts and minds of hardcore gamers through Christmas and onto 2011?  We can't wait until the new AMD cards get in the ring – can they withstand the TALON ATTACK ?

The single slot PowerColor HD5770's are fantastic cards which deserve serious consideration, especially if you are looking for a cool running gaming and media system within a confined chassis. Just be aware that under heavy load they can generate a fair amount of noise as the fans work hard to push hot air away from the PCB. Sadly, due to the cooler design, the cards don't force this air outside the chassis either, so a reasonably capable cooling system would already need to be in place to deal with ambient heat from two boards.

On a performance level the HD5770's never fail to impress and we still think that buying one of these then adding to it later is a very cost effective way to ensure that your system remains future proofed. Unfortunately with the new AMD 6 series cards due for release they may need to undergo a price drop to remain competitive. £130 for one of these cards right now doesn't seem quite as appealing as it did a few months ago. To win in this review, they would need to be less than £99 each inc vat – thats a tall order.

The PowerColor cards are retailing for around £125 inc vat each, meaning a single slot Crossfire graphics configuration is yours for £250.

The MSI GTX460 HAWK ‘Talon Attack' Edition is easily the best GTX460 card we have tested, which came as somewhat of a shock to us, especially as we expected the eVGA GTX460 ‘FTW' to hold the Number 1 mantle for a while. Already, within a week, the honours have changed hands.

In regards to performance, there is nothing to fault as this is the first GTX460 that we been able to overclock to 1ghz on the core, a monumental achievement and one that ensures it will sell extremely well.

Many people will be expecting this card to cost a lot more than a regular GTX460, but surprisingly OCUK are taking preorders for £199.99 inc vat which means that this card really should be the top of your list.

EDIT: We have found out today that the Talon Edition we reviewed was not the final version and while it featured the correct bios, the memory is not the same on the retail product, which would point to why our memory overclocks were not that impressive during our testing . You can therefore expect higher overclocks with the ‘final' product.

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In the first part of the challenge, the competitors get in the ring at stock speeds – armed only with the power the factory gave them. Scores for physical tests, synthetic tests and real world gaming are presented in a simple WIN or LOSE table.

Then, we slap each challenger to the floor and fill 'em full of Monster-Turbo-Nutter-Red-Bull clocks to see which one will be the last man standing. We're proud to present our first Challanger Charts for you today, bringing together PowerColor's radeon HD 5770 CrossFireX solution against MSI's GTX460 Talon Attack!

Radeon HD 5770 CrossFire edges out the Talon Attack 7-5 at stock speeds

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Crippling triple XXX result - small children should look away as the Talon Attacks.

When we look back at the review, the PowerColor HD5770 Crossfire configuration wins 7 out of 12 tests when both solutions are at reference clock speeds. When both are overclocked to the redline however, the results switch 9 to 3 in favour of the MSI GTX460 Hawk Talon Attack card.

Considering it is £50 less expensive that the HD5770's while managing to remain quieter and cooler it wins our shootout today, by a considerable margin.

KitGuru says: MSI GTX460 HAWK Talon Attack Edition is surely going to take some time to knock off the mid range perch – if any of the upcoming AMD 6000 series mid range cards can match this performance for £200 then we will be pleasantly surprised.

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23 comments

  1. Holy shit, I thought the eVGA was as good as it got, clearly not !

  2. Wow that GTX460 is the best card nvidia have ever made, without a doubt

  3. MSI arent even one of their tier one partners. they produce some stunning products, you just need to wait a few months.

  4. 1ghz on the core? lol, by december it will hit 1.2ghz. what an insane design. love it.

  5. well I would have bought the FTW if there was stock, but there hasnt been.

    I just preordered this, glad I waited !

  6. I am still going to wait for 6870 just to see what AMd have up their sleeve, but I can’t see it beating this, depending on price.

  7. I thought 900mhz on a 460 core was good, but 1ghz? It is just as well that nvidia brought this card out, the rest of their range isnt really wonderful tbh. 480 is good, like it, but the rest? forgettable.

    460 rocks.

  8. This really does ask the question, why buy anything more than a £200 card now? There is no need at all. I like to see teh focus on 1920×1080 and 1920×1200. I see some sites benchmarking cards like this at 1280 and 2560. pointless.

  9. Well this is incredible. what a hell of a card. very reasonable pricing also.

  10. Heck, if AMD 6000 mid range can beat this ill be a happy customer. No need for high end boards anymore ! id say 1 in 50,000 people have a 30 inch screen. id rather have two 24 inch screens than a single 30 inch. price is much better also.

  11. What a brilliant card, although id rather the card was sold at 1ghz speeds, rather than 810mhz. software is always a hassle, especially when a new driver comes out and rivatuner/msi afterburner wont work right.

  12. wait, something is not rite here- the pics show regular Hawk version: NO hynyx 0.4ns memory, the regular samsung 0.5ns is clearly visible (“HC05” speaks for itself), NO Proadlizer in the back of the board.
    WTF?!?!?!

  13. I have spoken to MSI, and they have sent a ‘wrong’ version with the Talon BIOS flashed, so you are right there is indeed an error, but it was certainly not intentional or a PR stunt as you said in an email to me. This is probably why the memory didn’t overclock as well as expected, only hitting 4000mhz

  14. MSI have issued this statement to me : this was an early version of the Talon Attack with different memory, and slightly different board design which has affected the overclock in this review (we would expect much higher than 4000mhz with the final retail version). You can be sure that the final version will overclock even better than the one on test today.

  15. Good update, I wondered why the memory only increased by 25/100mhz….. makes sense 🙂

  16. thanks for the clarification, may be the review needs to be put “on hold” until you get the proper card. also would be nice to bench the Talon against the Colorful igame460 and Gigabyte 460 Super Overclock as all three have the same features.

  17. Thanks kalawera. I have to say, I should have noticed the memory on the card myself, but I have so much work on right now that it was overlooked.

    MSI actually noticed this morning that the memory overclocks werent as good as they thought and when you contacted me, we all started an investigation. The card isnt a standard HAWK edition, it was an early test model with the retail TALON bios, so as you say there are differences.

    The final version of this card whenever it hits, should prove to overclock quite a bit more on the memory front, our memory overclock was very minor indeed. Still rather than put the review ‘on hold’ I think we just need to honest in public and use this review as a baseline for another review later against the cards you mention. I have appended the conclusion to indicate the updated information, however the results are still accurate. (they will probably be higher if the memory overclocks significantly more).

  18. Not the final version? — George MMM 2010-10-19 18:18
    You wrote that “We have found out today that the Talon Edition we reviewed was not the final version … the memory is not the same on the retail product …” and my question is what do you mean exactly by this. I am asking because the Talon Attack has arrived already here (Greece) and tomorrow I will have one from a Greek e-shop. Should I get it or wait for the final version you mentioned above ??? Thanks George

  19. George, the card you will buy will be fine. Ours was an early revision for this review. All talon branded cards will have the improved memory.

  20. Holy crap! OCed MSI talon gtx460 is faster than ati 5870? Insane! Buying it right now!

  21. Hi Zardon,
    I’m really impressed with your Talon Attack review. How can I send you a private mail?
    I have some questions regarding on how to overclock this card. I was really convinced to get this card over the 6870. I’ve had my email on this message. Glad if you could send me yours. Thanks in advance. -Mike

  22. Not sure he will be reading this now as its an older thread. you could ask on the forums or email him zardon (at) kitguru.net

  23. Crossfire 5770 user

    Not sure why not trolling or anything but was it really fair to put that card up against
    poorly cooled single slot cards? this msi 460 wouldnt touch my sapphire 5770s as they are clocked @930/1300 which isnt even the whole ccc slider. Just seemed like the 5770s chosen this way to give the 460 a fighting chance lol. Why didnt you use 2x hd 5770 hawks?