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We tested with the version of GPU Tweak supplied on the disc with the Asus ROG Matrix GTX 980Ti Platinum Edition graphics card. We had GPUz open at the same time and surprisingly noticed that the card was downclocking after the software was installed and running.
With the ‘gaming mode' enabled, the card was actually downclocking to 1,190mhz and the memory to 1,788mhz.
We enabled the ‘OC Mode' and the core speed reset to default, although the memory was still underclocked to 1,788mhz. We aren't sure if this was an isolated incident or not, but we deinstalled and reinstalled the software and the same thing happened.
We also noticed that sometimes the clock speeds didn't seem to hold when manually overclocking. So for the sake of consistency we deinstalled this software and reverted to our tried and tested software – MSI Afterburner.
The power limit was increased to 110% with a little extra core voltage added (+19). We managed to push the turbo speeds to 1,408mhz before artifacting would occur. The memory could be increased to just over 2,000mhz (8Gbps effective) – which is an incredible result.
Any further increases to core voltage didn't enhance the clock speeds. Every card is different and while our particular sample was actually stable to 1,500mhz we did notice very minor artifacting above 1410mhz which could indicate long term damage if maintained. We don't report inflated figures just to try and impress – we are interested only in 24/7 usable clock speeds.
With the manual overclock in place, the 3DMark score increased from 19,805 points to 21,189 points – not too far behind the reference clocked Sapphire R9 295X2 graphics card.
So how does this card compare to the MSI Lightning GTX 980 Ti, and the EVGA Kingpin 980 Ti? Are there significant differences, or is it too close to call?
we haven’t tested the kingpin, we did test the XLR8 model, which is a little lower in the chain http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/pny-gtx980-ti-xlr8-oc/ – my colleague Luke tested the Lightning but I haven’t seen it myself http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/luke-hill/msi-gtx-980-ti-lightning-6gb-review/
Nice card but I really wouldn’t want to be spending £650 on a Maxwell card so late in its life cycle, Pascal cards costing half as much will have roughly the same performance in 6-8mths.
So is this 2.5 slot or 3 slot, I keep being told 3 slot design.
then high end Pascal in Q2 2017
Allan, is this 2.5 slot or 3 slot, I keep being told it is 3 slot.
Why do you keep changing your GPU tests, makes it harder to compare due to different situations, stick to one way, if not test all the GTX 980ti again, I would like to have a comparison of GTX 980ti Lightning and the ASUS GTX 980ti Matrix
It’s 2.5 slot.
Source? Even if true, GTX680 outperformed GTX580 by 35% at 1440P on day one of release, and had better feature set and driver support. That means in 2016 we’ll should have a 16nm $500-600 card from AMD/NV that should be 30-40% faster than 980Ti. It won’t be double the performance but it’ll likely have 8GB of memory and better feature set and most importantly the latest driver focus (*Kepler gimping* ahem).
One is the 16nm fab is new…and untested…and you can’t go large and power hungry on first generation chips. Don’t believe how unreliable a new fab is? Look at how long it took Nvidia to pick between Samsung and TSMC and finally siding with TSMC due to their longer working history and reliability.
Second point is…they will kill their own sales by offering their best card right at the release of the new generation. They will not be able to give any reason at all to their enthusiast market to upgrade their card within 3 years of launch. Whereas when you look at Kepler, people bought the 680, then the Titan came out, then the 780, and most people who bought the 680 eventually upgraded to those cards. And then when Maxwell launched, they started with just the 750 and 750ti. Then released the 980 that some bought, and finally after a while, the Titan X and 980ti which gave people (enthusiast market, again) a reason to upgrade.
Nvidia likes incremental upgrades. They don’t want you to buy a card now, and launch another card in a year that completely destroys the card you bought. They put out one card, then 12 months later they bring out another card that is generally just 10-20% faster, so it’s better than what they offered before, but not enough to piss off anyone who bought their last gen cards. And then another 6-12 months later they put out an even better card, with 50%+ better performance than their older cards, and people start upgrading again.
If on day one of the Pascal launch, if they come out with their absolute best card, they are going to have nothing interesting to bring to market for 2 to 3 years until Volta comes out. And that would be silly. Even if it were possible with the new 16nm fab. In terms of business, you need to offer a product that is a bit better than your competition, without being too much better/too costly for you. So they just need to put out a slight performance increase, but sell the card on much lower power consumption, wait for AMD to release something else, and then launch a bigger die version themselves, and back/forth they go. Just a quick reference:
FERMI
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GTX 580 = 520mm2
KEPLER
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GTX 680 = 294mm2
GTX Titan = 551mm2
MAXWELL
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GTX 750ti = 148mm2
GTX 980 = 398mm2
GTX Titan X = 601mm2
Do you see the pattern? Small, Medium, Big, restart. Don’t think about it based on die size. Because it’s really just about transistor count. Pascal at 16nm, even a 294mm2 sized die like the GTX 680, along with HBM2, would result in performance close to the Titan X…and perhaps even higher due to lower heat/power consumption allowing higher clocks.
Hope that helps.
Also NVIDIA has not even released the GTX 990, so why would high end Pascal come out in Q1 2016, no one would buy the GTX 990
Also, you really think it will be 30 percent, node shrinks do not increase performance. It will be the same performance in games. Also we are comparing a GTX 980t, not the GTX 980, the GTX 1080 will have the same performance as the GTX 980ti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqq6gJlKvtk
There you go, all you need to know 🙂