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Earlier this week, reports began circulating suggesting that Nvidia may skip a high-end mobile graphics chip this year and just cut straight to implementing the desktop GTX 1080 into notebooks. Nvidia did something similar last year, when it successfully began putting desktop GTX 980 chips into gaming notebooks.
The initial report comes from sources speaking with PCGamer, which claims that Nvidia has no plans to release an M-series GTX 1080 but will instead put the desktop GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 into notebooks later down the line.
According to the sources, the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 will operate at a lower TDP once put inside of a laptop but will retain the same number of shader units and other key specifications. Nothing was confirmed as far as voltages and core clocks but it would be safe to assume that they will be altered a bit due to the form factor and lower-grade cooling available in a laptop.
KitGuru Says: Given what Nvidia was able to achieve with the desktop GTX 980 in notebooks, skipping the M-series entirely this generation seems like a step in the right direction for high-power portable gaming. What do you guys think of this? Would having a desktop graphics chip make buying a gaming laptop a better option for you?
If I were in the market for a laptop, definitely 100% yes.
We have finally entered the age of desktop level video cards inside of laptops. (I dont count the 980 desktop cause it was only 1, pascal is letting most pascal cards come in laptops)
Looks like they may be concerned about AMD’s offering and decided to give the Mobile segment a boost…
at 14nm we’re likely going to see vegas into notebooks as well
I’ll never buy a “desktop replacement” laptop as long as they stay thick as a dictionary and have zero battery life…I seriously do not understand the point of these laptops and what types of people buy them. Plus I’m more interested in seeing AMD’s offerings with the Zen based APUs coming in 2017…also, AMD is going to be making APU/SoCs with Zen Cores, Polaris CUs and integrated and dedicated HBM, so basically a very powerful APU with console quality or better graphics and built in HBM to act as VRAM….now that will make an incredibly powerful, yet thin, light and power efficient mobile device
They are for people that want high level performance but travel a lot. I travel abroad for my university and my parents live in different states, so should I lug around a 22inch monitor and tower or a 15 to 17 inch laptop…. hmmm difficult choice
They are for people who what a DTR..as the name suggests. They may not need to take it to school everyday or can live without playing it on a bus. The thicker machines don’t thermally throttle and the fact some of them are MXM upgradable machines, then sh#t all over the soldered thin disposable pretty boy laptops.
ZEN is rumored to have Polaris integrated into it with like performance of the discrete performance.
If that is correct getting a thin , power efficient notebook, on the cheap with very good performance is around the corner. A gaming rig on a laptop with a small foot print for less than 1000?: Not bad.
There will be no boost with a desktop chip in a notebook vs. a ZEN with integrated Polaris that will end up significantly cheaper. AMD already gave there solution for notebooks with is an external graphics card using thunderbolt. Its unclear what Nvidia is doing at all but , from a compettive stand point they have nothing competitive on offer against Intel or AMD atm. High performing Alien Ware laptops I can see this. But mainstream mobility is going to be clearly dominated by Intel and AMD. What I do like that Nvidia is doing bringing a high performing gaming rig to a smaller foot print rather than a desktop. SO , if your looking to reduce size and space that could be the way to ditch the desktop all together. And a very interesting move considering desktop market is shrinking . Maybe NVidia’s tactic is to boost gaming rigs by using high powered chips in notebooks for those of ready to ditch the desktop. I do prefer smaller devices. MY cube is taking too much space these days. And Nvidia just provided a viable option to that. But then again AMD has one also. I could buy a laptop with a great CPU or ZEN powered. Slap an Xconnect box on it and now I’ve got dual gpu on a laptop. That’s a good solution as well . To me it seems AMD is throwing a brick in whereever Nvidia tries to run from ZEN and its integrated solution coming. They should be very scared of ZEN. It’s AMD’s largest development investment in it’s own history. And if it does turn out to be another Athlon XP run AMD could end up taking serious market share from Intel and Nvidia both. Which is so badly needs right now. But AMD has a history of effing it up after a good releaase. Why it does that I don’t know, But I suspect they cut and run. Hire a ton of developers when the product gets released they fire em all. Then when the next gen comes it flops due to people having to start from scratch and having a tiny budget again. That’s what it looks like anyway to me. Whether or noth that’s truth i have no idea.
If money is no object then I say go for it. But the laptop battery isn’t go too last long. If your looking to replace a desktop with a smaller footprint go for it. Those are my reasons for buying or not buying. To be taken highly with a grain of salt.
my Alienware 17 is thick and heavy, but I’m surprised with the battery life. Being able to last 6 hours usage on 50% screen brightness is good enough for me. Nvidia optimus and Skylake chips work wonders
If this were to happen it would cost at least $1500. If this were to happen… actually there’s no way they will just chop some cores and rops off, lower the MHz, honestly having a laptop video card at the same level as a desktop at the same date, you have to understand there is no way this will happen. Investors would be raging and so will many other business people. This most likely happened to get news for kitguru. NVidia probably told them this so kitguru could make money. It’s just all talk so they can change it. They will release the 1060m first then 1070m then 1080m. Jumping all the way to desktop class 1080 GTX, you just cannot w/o taking all the other factors that matter into consideration.
@an@AntDX316:disqus dude stop trying to be a smart ass or an all know it,go do your research first .they gtx desktop gpu in laptop like msi laptop etc was just 1 fps slower or equal to its desktop counter part.just stop tryin to act like you will know everything.u dont know the future.tech is getting better and they will make things better.the current gen laptops that will come out already equals the dekstop machines and still has cooling good enough except if the desktop were to have dual or tripe gpus then they are just equal to the laptop and the laptop will be higher price which i will pay the premium for because it is portable,looks sexy and an all in one machine.now fuck off
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@travis bruno the battery may not last long when gaming.for everything else it will be like every other laptop.battery will last when not gaming because the gpu will automatically get lowered clock speed when not plugged in.even at a fast food joint or a food court we got sockets to plug in.when u game u need to plug it in.if im doing other stuff like browsing or watching videos ill do well with the battery.
@chri@christopher_lennon:disqus i dont get it why you want to cry so much? there are people that want laptop for portability.and please do your research,there are slim gaming laptop like aorus and razer blade.i cant carry my desktop to my friends house or costa coffee and show off can i? id rather have an alienware or razer to take to my friends place and still be able to game at 4k at his house or i can plug it in at costa coffee and use it.so just because you dont like a laptop does not mean everyone else has to follow your likes.there are other people who have reasons like i said and they buy a gaming laptop for that.fuck off now
They cost $3-4.5k though while the desktop version is half that or 1/3. now you fuck off
@an@AntDX316:disqus stop crying again.gaming laptops are for people who can afford to buy a premium product at high price.the topic here was not about the price.stop cyring?? and when they bring out gtx 1070 laptops it will be even cheaper.haahahahahhaa seriously changing the topic and thinks he can win ahahhahaahah.the topic was about performance.desktop with equivalent specs vs a laptop with same specs,its either equal or the laptop is maybe 1 fps lower.now stop crying and get over it hahahahahahahha.loser.cant reply to that changing the topic hahahhaa
The 1080 GTX as laptop version was before AMD released their Polaris. Nvidia got scared and launched big before AMD could release. They want to remain dominant.
When people convert they stay converted. I have a 980M. I came from 970M and the difference isn’t that much but the price is like $600+ more. Up to 30% more performance and it’s like 10 more fps at 4k.
@anthony abelardo ,
in your first comment u said that having a laptop at the same level as desktop won’t happen in a laptop. and i replied to that then you changed the topic about pricing because i showed e you that it is simply not true. there are recent and upcoming laptops benchmarked with the same performance as a desktop with equal specs and have equal performance. I don’t care about money. who ever has money will pay the premium and buy it if they want a powerful machine thats also good in looks and portable. my debate was not about price in the first place. dont bring price topic up as i dont care for the price. i just debunked your wrong point that laptop cannot equal desktop if they have the same specifications
I already knew the 980 GTX exist. What I meant was they won’t flat out release a 1080 GTX w/o no M version at the same price of a 980M. It would be priced at the level of 980 GTX or higher. The problem with making the 1080 GTX w/ no M is the other 9 series would cost nothing and be non-existent. If they do happen to release a 1080 GTX at the same price point of a 980M that would be absolutely insane and people would just skip getting a desktop making their $600 1080 GTX not be purchased.
I said for an investor price point. You didn’t read everything I said in the original post of mine. You just took price and talked around it but I gave a detailed explanation why.
They crippled the amount of cores and ROPs with the 1080 vs 980 because it’s way more efficient. They are strategically money milking and if they do it like that there is No way a 1080 GTX would be released before the 1080M does come out. People will just take a loan out on a 1080 GTX skipping the 1080m. By not releasing it now those who have money will get the 1080M then SELL it for the 1080 GTX on the blackmarket so nvidia makes MORE MONEY.
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It doesn’t make any sense to use a card that can drain ouy your batter in half an hour or it can burn your laptop in a few minutes.
you cant game on the battery in most laptops with a discrete gpu any way, not enough power
I am wondering about the connector used.. For 980m they use mxm.. What about now gtx 1080? Will the connector they use will allow future upgreadability like the mxm?
Anyone can shed an answer?
its the portability that’s the selling point, meaning bringing it from place to place, not using it on the go. If you want to use it on the go, you can just not for intensive gaming. On power-saving mode it swtches off the GPU and relies on the intel gfx card, still decent enough to run some games and th battery lasts about 2hours, lasts about 4 hours just web browsing, maybe longer. On power saving mode that is
Exactly the same as me! (But I also travel overseas) People like Christopher and their ignorant comments are unbelievable.
It happened but they price gouged monopolied the 1080 GTX to only exist in $3k laptops. 1060 GTX is still 20-30% faster than the 980M using way less power I assume. The 1070GTX is prob equivalent to where the 1080M should be. The 1080 GTX M is where the 1180M should be just way ahead of it’s time. Now, having 2x 1080 GTX only exist in a $5k laptop. Of course anyone who can afford a $3.5k+ laptop can easily afford a $5k laptop because if they are in the market they obviously have lots of income and/or lots of savings. I assume they can even charge $6k for the laptop and I doubt the amount of people who are going to buy wouldn’t decline.
Learn to change topics synonymously within context and you will realize not changing topics is dumber.
fuck back, did you get the 1080 GTX?