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The engineering sample we have at hand is Devil's Canyon's flagship part – the four-core, eight-thread Core i7 4790K. Haswell's 4770K has been replaced by the 4790K, which actually sells at an identical price to its predecessor.
Starting with the biggest news of all, Intel clocks the 4790K at a hefty 4GHz out-of-the-box, on all four cores. And if that wasn't high enough, turbo boost can take individual cores up to a maximum of 4.4GHz, under the correct workloads.
Let's put this into perspective; coupled with a motherboard that supports multi-core turbo (MCT), out-of-the-box operating frequencies for the 4790K are as high as the maximum overclock that many 4770K processors could reach. That's impressive, provided stability is also present.
We still see the same features offered by the Haswell Core i7 4770K; Intel's HD 4600 GPU is clocked at 1250MHz, native support for 1600MHz DDR3 memory is present, 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes are still fed directly from the CPU, and the chip slots into an LGA 1150 socket (making it compatible with 9-series and selected 8-series motherboards).
Put simply, the 4790K is a Core i7 4770K with higher out-of-the-box operating frequencies and optimised (hopefully) overclocking and thermal performance. To be quite honest, that seems to be exactly what enthusiasts want. There's very little reason to complain about the Haswell micro-architecture – it's fast and efficient.
As already pointed out, Haswell was given a hard time amongst the enthusiast crowd, and on many levels, it was deserved. Variations in overclocking performance from chip-to-chip were some of the largest that we have seen in recent generations, and even if you won the silicon lottery, the chances of finding a 4.8GHz+ 4770K were uncharacteristically low.
Many retail processors simply would not push past 4.5GHz, and that's a problem to users looking to upgrade their 2-3-year old Sandy Bridge system that runs smoothly at 4.8GHz+. Better overclocking performance was one of the ways for Intel to re-light enthusiasts' interest in the company's current mainstream offerings.
Devil's Canyon is all about improving overclocking performance so that enthusiasts can once again feel loved by Intel. The company has used two main methods to increase Devil's Canyon's overclocking potential in comparison to Haswell.
Improvement number one is optimising thermal transfer from the processor to a CPU cooler. Recent CPU generations have seen Intel switch to an interface between the processor die and heatspreader which is basically a layer of thermal paste. Temperatures suffered considerably in comparison to previous designs that saw the use of a heatspreader soldered directly onto the processor.
Being termed ‘Next-Generation Polymer Thermal Interface Material (NGPTIM)' by Intel, the poorly performing TIM used on Haswell parts seems to have been upgraded (hopefully). Temperature thresholds certainly were a limiting factor to many Haswell processors when pushing for maximum frequency, so hurdle number one has been addressed.
The other main improvement is more of a fine-tuned one. Intel's other way of aiming to improve overclocking performance for Devil's Canyon comes in the form of a tweaked circuit layout.
Aiming to counteract the anomalous overclocking lottery that Haswell was prone to, Intel has equipped Devil's Canyon chips with additional capacitors in an attempt to deliver smoother power to the processor's die.
There should be no problems using the 4790K in newly-released motherboards based on Intel 9-series chipset, such as Asus' Maximus VII Hero. Being an LGA 1150 part, Devil's Canyon CPUs should also work fine on 8-series based motherboards, although relevant BIOS updates are at the discretion of motherboard vendors.
Intel noted that Devil's Canyon's 88W TDP (4W higher than Haswell K-series chips) could cause issues with 8-series motherboards, although that seems highly unlikely (as we will prove later in the review).
Same sh*t than 4770K. This processor was launched just for idiots that wants to stick to the top products. I’ll stick to my 4770K and won’t spend any more penny with new cpu for a long long time. Anything beyond a 4770K is to spent money in vain.
There are a couple of minor differences not mentioned in the article between the 4770K and the 4790K that while not relevant to gamers would be of note to users who do more esoteric things with their systems.
VT-d and TSX-NI are included, not sure about TSX-NI but VT-d is important to myself as I run multiple guested OS’s on top of my Linux system and having a faster base line processor that can access dedicated hardware is quite a bonus over its nearest equivalent 4770; it also runs a faster inbuilt GPU (not a gamer so the ability to run 3 dedicated screens direct from the MB is useful) as to how much the aforementioned actually improves things in the real world over numbers on the page is a debate as old as the PC industry and a multitude of incremental updates.
You missed out an option that a lot of people new to overclocking might make use of, im talking about the now pretty much universal motherboard one press self overclock. I’d like to see what overclock the onboard tools like Asus 4 way optimisation etc give.
Think you lucked out with that sample, I’ve read a few reviews and spoke to a few people who are really struggling to justify the necessity for the refresh although temperature never seems to be an issue.
Its finally time to upgrade my i7-920 system from the end of 2008. I’m thinking of getting this and just leaving it at stock. It doesn’t seem like there’s much upside left on he table anyway, and the introduction leaves me feeling there may be long term longevity benefits to just leaving it at spec.
disappointing overall, I was hoping these would all hit 5ghz with minimal effort and good cooling. maybe next time…
Not one I will be upgrading too. Good article, well written. 4770k for me has been disappointing as well. mine only hits 4.4ghz no matter what I do with it. I think Kitguru actually got a good sample of the 4790k, a lot of them online are not overclocking past 4.5ghz.
good overclocking info. I managed to get my 4790k to 4.6ghz as well, interesting stuff on the degradation. wont be pushing mine any higher,.
My 2500k has been overclocked to 4.5 GHz with corsair h60 cooler, the only reason I scaled it down to 4.3 was that I couldn’t deal with the noise of the fans working faster.
Just wondering as per my earlier post if anyone at Kitguru fancies trying Asus 4 way optimization (you do have a advertising banner on the main page). I’d love to see how much the one press technology has advanced and how it works with the Devils Canyon processors. I know its asking a bit much but it would be nice to see it tried out with a few mobo manufacturers.
Hi Lelisevis,
Thanks for the feedback.
We analyse the motherboard’s automated overclocking performance as standard for our motherboard reviews. Our motherboard test system is set to be updated with the 4790K from here onwards.
We will have full reviews of the Asus Maximus VII Hero and Ranger boards soon, therefore the automated overclocking will be analysed in their reviews.
Luke
Thanks Luke, i’ll keep my eyes peeled for the reviews, I must be getting old but i’d be quite happy with the one press overclock if it yields decent results, my days of increasing 1mhz at a time till 3am in the morning are behind me. Its a cup of cocoa and bed for me these days.
This is pretty disappointing. Seems there’s something wrong internally. I’ve heard people say it’s because it’s on 22nm, but that doesn’t explain why Haswell (and Devil’s Canyon) seem to be even worse than Ivy Bridge 22nm for overclocking.
I guess moving forward it makes sense that CPUs will start to have more cores and perhaps lower clock speeds to keep power consumption down. Maybe AMD had the right idea but poor execution… we need 8-core CPUs @ 3GHz or something.
I’ve a 2600K@5Ghz with off-the-shelf watercooling. It runs hot on full load, often 90+ in summer and it’s been like that for close to three years and will run Prime95 all day long. I’m looking for an excuse to upgrade but it’s looking like the 2600K will be good for another year. It seems incredible that a three year old CPU can still hold it’s own with Intels latest.
this is way faster and better then any 4770k. POS 4770k can suck a dizznik
You have to remember, that the new line of CPU’s 4xxx series, were not intended to be a frequency-deamon. BTW Ghz has nothing to do with speed. I have 4Ghz chips that have passmark-scores around 1,000, and others with lower Ghz that perform with passmark scores over 12,000. What changed is the GPU-component and the instruction-sets. They stripped out all the old MMX, SSE, etc… and used the faster and updated instruction sets.
Translation, everything you do is now faster. Mostly the memory-read/write to RAM and to the hard-drives and instructions to the PCIe-busses. Having the cooler-running and more top-adaptive threading control and independent core-frequency, is where we see “powered value”. They produce the same powerful operations, with less power, with less internal damage, and with greater potential longevity as programs start using this stuff. (Pulling away from the old dead instructions.)
This is the cusp of the technology edge. The plateau before the next generation has funding and a market. This is the result of why the 3xxx series was made, for consumers. These are the fine-tuned, adaptive and solidified versions of the past generation. Sure, you don’t want to buy one if you just got one last year… These were not made for you. These were made for those of us who waited for what your funding contributed towards. Thanks for funding our future. Now we are funding the next generation, which, undoubtedly, you will buy and we will not.
These are more snappy, more responsive, and more advanced than the prior series of 3xxx, and well worth every penny spent on them.
I hear this. I never bought into degredation, Atleast at such low voltages. It is a case by case basis largely however. My 4770k had little to none. That said it topped out at 4.7. My 4790k I had 100 runs of x264 at 1.42/4.9ghz which turned into 1.45 v which then turned Into 1.52v wouldn’t stabilize it. This is all in the course of about a month. Insane. My 4770k on the other hand ran 4675 at 1.43v which turned into 1.46v which was stable for about a year until I sold it.
I think it is a combo of particular chip, voltage, and frequency.
It’s worth noting that the same chip I couldn’t get prime stable at 1.42/4.9 is the same chip that I could game on at 5.0 when 1.45v wouldn’t get 4.9 stress test stable.
A lot of guys think they’re stable, but for me.. It seemed encoding was a tipping point and I didn’t care if I could use my PC reliably for everything I do but I risked a hard lock during encoding .
The solution was 4.8 and now I’m stable at 1.37 (which is irritating since even 1.52 wouldn’t stabilize 4.9 after the first few weeks)
I wouldnt run any Intel chip at 1.4 let alone 1.52. get what ever yuo can get at 1.35 MAX and call it a day.