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Overclocking
Overclocking with Ryzen 5 is a practically identical procedure to that of Ryzen 7. The main settings worth tweaking for CPU overclocking are the CPU VCore, loadline calibration, and SOC voltage to aid stability especially with higher-speed memory kits. If your motherboard has the option in its UEFI, bumping NB voltage up to around 1.10-1.15V can aid stability.
With that said, the number of adjustable voltage options on B350 motherboards is far more limited compared to X370, based on our experience with the ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4. This motherboard had no options for loadline calibration control and SOC voltage adjustment was not clear. That's not a major negative, necessarily, because the overclocking procedure is far more straightforward if CPU frequency and CPU voltage are the only worthwhile adjustable options.
Default voltage for manual tuning should start at around 1.3625V, according to AMD (though we noticed the Ryzen 5 1500X default to a lower voltage around 1.2xV in the UEFI). Users should be fine pushing to 1.40V with a decent CPU cooler and up to 1.45V with a high-end dual-tower heatsink or dual-fan AIO radiator. At 1.45V, however, AMD suggests that processor longevity could be affected according to their models.
In short, our final Ryzen 5 1600X overclocking settings using an ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 motherboard were:
- 1.40V CPU VCore.
- Multiple Cinebench R15 multi-core runs to validate stability, as well as AIDA64 CPU stress test.
- DDR4-3200MHz 14-14-14-34 @ 1.35V (XMP).
The best frequency that we could achieve with these settings was 4.0GHz with 1.40V (1.36V under Cinebench loading due to a lack of loadline calibration settings on the ASRock AB350 Gaming K4 motherboard).
We tried to push to 4100MHz using a BIOS-set voltage of 1.425V (1.424V under initial Cinebench loading) but this proved unstable. Upon backing down to the reasonable level of 1.40V in the UEFI, we could not achieve stability past 4000MHz. 4025MHz was very close to stable for our five continuous runs of Cinebench but it failed part way through the fifth run.
The overclocking results for the Ryzen 5 1600X look to be similar to those that have been accepted with the Ryzen 7 chips. Ryzen 7’s 1800X seems to overclock a little further, which is understandable given the likelihood of it being the most potent silicon in AMD’s inventory. However, it is a little disappointing to see the same limits for Ryzen 5 as Ryzen 7. The reduction in core count gives a greater power budget per core but this seems to have little influence at sensible voltage levels where the silicon simply does not like to operate much further than 4GHz.
Our superb kit of G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 worked flawlessly at its 3200MHz C14 XMP settings on the ASRock motherboard. Temperatures were fine at a 1.36V load voltage even when using the inexpensive Cooler Master Hyper 212X CPU cooler.
Thank you very nice review very well balanced 2 thumbs up. in the apart where you say IPC is stronger on the Intel part which we know to be around 6%-7% with same clock rate. With that said what are the Cinebench IPC score if Intel’s Kady-lake and the AMD Ryzen running at the same clock speed. I would assume you would use the i5 7600K since that is the CPU the Ryzen 5 1600x and 1500x are shooting for both Single and multi threaded scores would be great.
For example my i7 2700K gets 184 single and 894 multi @ 5Ghz(5007mhz) I have 5.2Ghz scores as well I just don’t recall them right now they are higher. 5ghz is my 24/7 settings anyway 5.2Ghz is for bench testing and chest thumping…lol It was nice seeing my i7 2700K in the review @4.6Ghz it gives a reference point of where my CPU would sit running at 4.6Ghz against the newer CPU’s thank you for including the older CPU’s. I also just noticed the i5 3570K included.I also have one of those in another system @ 4.6Ghz it is good to see it is also doing good as well.
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Yikes.
Great review. I am happy I bought i5 7500 instead of waiting on Ryzen.
You won’t be happy in 2 years, when the i5 is completely obsolete.
I will upgrade to a hexa/quad coffee/canon lake on my b250 by then.
And have spent twice on you CPU/mobo/ram combo. Such savings!
Unreliable review. All DX12 tests should be done on Radeon cards. We all know by now how nVidia’s DX12 implementation fails big time to parallelize workloads properly. Thats why you get the same kind of results using a 1080 in DX12 compared to using DX11. Intel on top like erratic freaks (notice the 7600K Oc below the non OC).
See for yourself : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tfTZjugDeg
The press should have caught on to this by now. But it seems they, too, behave like erratic zombies. Or maybe money is involved, who knows!..
Why? I will just replace the cpu. I have a B250 mobo with LGA1151 chipset that will support Coffee Lake and maybe Cannon Lake too.
Nvidia or AMD makes no difference. Even a non k i5 beats the crap out of Ryzens in DX12 titles.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11244/the-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-vs-core-i5-review-twelve-threads-vs-four/13
^ See for yourself.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mbK0n5FjvhI
^ Ryzen 5 loses in almost all games even to a non k i5.
you will still have bought 2 CPUs
Well in tests involving AMD cards (second half of the page, R9 Fury and RX480), what i see is either Ryzen pulling ahead, on being neck in neck with Intel CPUs. There are other cases where the test is GPU bottlenecked which means Anand has failed to adapt settings to avoid that.
Only cases where Ryzen gets destroyed is when using NV cards, which proves my point.
Also, it’s been shown in many places that Nvidia GPU performance is gimped on Ryzen CPUs.
I see you conveniently forgot to link to the other DX12 benches in that review. Let me help you: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11244/the-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-vs-core-i5-review-twelve-threads-vs-four/11
Ryzen absolutely destroys every intel chip in that one.
Cannon Lake is only coming to low power notebooks. Coffee Lake is coming to the desktop, but it will use a new chipset. So, you’ll have to buy a new motherboard too.
I can sell or shovel the old cpu under some dumb troll as I always do. BTW thats called upgrade.
I know in strategy games more cores/threads matter. But I dont play any so I am happy with my i5. Its good to have competition good for both amd and intel fans. I was myself using AMD cpus from last 12 years. But now will stay with intel for some time as I bought B250 board and upgrade to upcoming hexa/quad intel chips. Hopefully cheap thanks to AMD.
I think our view of things is jut different. it’s okay.
It is the other way around. Nvidia writes their GPU drivers. They have a choice, to optimize for Ryzen or not. And of course they won’t.
Coffee Lake is socket LGA1151
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake
And it will come in hexa core in 2018.
can i run g.skill 3000mhz 8x2gb (CL15-16-16-35) kit with amd ryzen 1600x
Actually. INTEL hasn’t confirmed Coffee Lake to be socket 1151 compatible. If so it could also be just new 3XX Chipset compatible. I hope not, but knowing Intel it is possible. They don’t give much information.
Turns out you both are wrong and just smearing a company. Square released a new tomb raider update that drastically increases ryzen performance with nvidia GPUs so…
Square huh?
Nixxes did address the DX12 performance optimization story for Ryzen CPUs, but then again it favored AMD more than nVidia. http://wccftech.com/dx-12-ryzen-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-patch-1-0-770-1/
And just been confirmed it uses a new chipset… So new board for you.
Its just a tweet but heck I will upgrade to i7 7700K instead. Its still a badass.
Absolutely you can. Running G.Skill Ripjaw 4 3000mhz @2933 mhz after bios update. I just selected A-XMP 2 and everything auto adjusted, no issues at all.
Intel changes its chipset every other advancement. The way things are going with Intel, anything you get now will require a full upgrade in about 1 year. Thing is, Intel fanboys wont switch to AMD anyway. Why spend more money for Intel when right now AMD is right there with them at a much lower price point?
The same will happen with AMD too. You can’t expect AM4 chipset to continue that long either. After 2-3 years we will get a new chipset for new Ryzens. Right now its safe to chose any (Intel or AMD) if you are building a new machine. But if you are having a 3 year old intel chipset with a slow cpu like me, i7 7700k is still a worthy upgrade.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1505-intel-core-8th-gen-vs-amd-ryzen/page6.html
But why spend more money on Intel, when you can get a very similar performance AMD and use the money you saved to get a better GPU?
I have an i5 7500 on a B250 with 16GB DDR4 2400. Why would I buy a whole new system when I can just upgrade the CPU to i7 7700K and get performance better than an R7 1800X.
Just remember that if you get an i7 7700K, you cannot OC it on a B250 mobo, it doesnt support overclocking. Only boards that do are X or Z series.
Yes i know. Not a big fan of OCing anymore. Had my FX 4300 oced to 4.7ghz. OCing cpu these days does not give more frames in all the games.. not worth the extra power we spend.