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A Chinese web-site has published what it claims to be preliminary performance benchmarks of an upcoming high-performance graphics card from Advanced Micro Devices. Just like previous unofficial test results, the new ones indicate that AMD’s forthcoming high-end graphics solution will beat everything that is available on the market today except the dual-chip Radeon R9 295X2.
Chinese-language Chiphell web-site has once again published alleged benchmark results of an unknown AMD graphics card that is claimed to be the forthcoming flagship Radeon R9 graphics solution. Recently AMD employees confirmed that the next-gen top-of-the-range single-chip solution will be called the Radeon R9 380X; hence, it is highly likely that the web-site published the so-called benchmark results of this product. The company used a picture of an island instead of an actual name on its graphs.
According to the numbers released by the web-site, the alleged Radeon R8 380X scores 8374 points in the 3DMark FireStrike Extreme benchmark, which is considerably higher compared to the GeForce GTX 980 and the GeForce GTX 780 Ti. While the unconfirmed results look impressive, the numbers do not seem to be very consistent. The GeForce GTX 980 and the GeForce GTX 780 Ti usually demonstrate similar results in the 3DMark FireStrike Extreme. But Chiphell’s graph indicates that the former is considerably faster than the latter.
Another graph published by the web-site reveals relative performance advantage the alleged Radeon R9 380X has over existing graphics adapters. If the numbers are correct, then the novelty is around 58 per cent faster than the GeForce GTX 970 and the Radeon R9 290X, which is something that was expected.
The data by Chiphell further shows that the Radeon R9 380X consumes up to 295W, but thanks to usage of a hybrid liquid + air cooler, the GPU temperature is only about 73°C.
In general, the published data looks interesting. However, it should be kept in mind that the Radeon R9 380X is due in several months’ time and it is unclear whether at present AMD has finalized specifications of the commercial product or not. Final configuration and final clock-speeds are usually finalized weeks before commercial shipments, whereas drivers are released sometimes days before the announcement. As a result, it is pretty hard to make conclusions about performance using preliminary hardware and software.
It is expected that the Radeon R9 380X is based on the GCN 1.2 architecture and sports 4096 stream processors as well as 4GB of stacked high-bandwidth memory (HBM) with up to 640GB/s of bandwidth.
AMD did not comment on the news-story.
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KitGuru Says: If the Radeon R9 380X truly delivers 50 per cent performance improvement over the Radeon R9 290X, it will be a very good result that will probably let AMD and its partners to sell loads of such graphics cards. Unfortunately, we have no idea when exactly AMD plans to roll-out its new product. As a result, we do not know what Nvidia will use to compete against the new GPU from AMD. The Santa Clara, California-based GPU developer is not standing still and is working not only on its new-generation GeForce GTX Titan based on the code-named GM200 GPU, but is also developing new solutions to refresh its lineup this fall.
‘Only about 73°C.’ That’s pretty bloody toasty, on water too!
yeah but it’s not at a dangerous level. means less overclocking headway, but if those benchmarks are true would you really need to overclock that monster? the 295×2 was a complete beast of a dual gpu and this thing is almost catching up to it. if these are the real specs 73 degrees is perfectly fine imo.
Nah thats about right if it goes the same route as most of these GPU’s that essentialy have a Hybrid AIO cooler (Slim 120mm rad)
i never cared about power consumption, just gimme power, more power, unlimited poweeeer! i have solar panels on my house, so…
I’m so glad I held out and didn’t go for the crippled GTX 970. I nearly got suckered!
The next gen from both AMD and Nvidia will absolutely CRUSH the current generation graphics cards.
The 380 isn’t using water cooling the 390 is. Plus do you think the gtx 980ti is going to be using less than 250 or 300w?? Lol.. 73c is good.
hbm ftw
Me too, my electric bill its only 9$ monthly 😀
Very true, more so in the face of the Maxwell range. That being said, if those benchmarks are true, you could underclock it so that it ran cooler and still have a card that hammered the competition, and honestly, with such a large performance difference, I’d be willing to sacrifice 20C for a significant increase in frames.
better efficiency can directly effect clock speeds and hence performance and temps and once again performance.
i think graphic solution come out way too often, i bought my R9 270X few months after the release and it will be outdated already soon D:
As long as it can dump heat quickly enough to not overheat, power consumption doesn’t affect how it overclocks.
But that was a lower end card on launch so….
where do you get this is on water the 390x is the one being used for water cooler.
Just have to double the number of panels for your self sustaining home and you can ALMOST CF these things.
Speaking of suckered.. For the price and performance, the 970 is >= the old 780, and almost half the MSRP while having 0.5GB more RAM.
Nvidia was lame to lie, but the results were not nearly as catastrophic as the internet drama queens, with their over the top feelings, would have one believe.
R9 270X great card for the price when you got them for less than $200 back then. Now that you can get a 280 for less than $220 (even $200) is still a slap in the face to nVidia
No, it was a Mid-End card, 200USD on lauch.
290X -> High End
280X -> Mid-High End
270X -> Mid-End
260X -> Low-Mid End
240/250 -> Low End
Damn. This is just the R9 380x what about the performance of the R9 390x also if AMD release a R9 395×2 oh god the world will explode.
“The data by Chiphell further shows that the Radeon R9 380X consumes up to 295W” i certainley hope not, the high TDP of AMD is putting me and many others off, wouldn’t mind it if i could afford to run a portable air conditioner in my room year round.
In a desktop machine power consumption doesn’t matter to me much. Its performance and cooling is what I prefers more.
Maybe, Real next gen in terms performance is finally here, after a long time.
Now only if they are generous enough to price it near the launch price of r9 280X.
I think this month is the best time to release this card
Published from Chinese site. I don’t give that much credibility. For goodness sake these Chinese use rubber and plastics in certain foods in and around the country.
I doubt the credibility of those numbers. Until something officially released by AMD, I won’t believe any of these so called benchmarks. Especially published from a Chinese site with no confirmed sources.
Great if you live far from the equator. You can heat your entire house, water heater, and cook with boiling water. AMD, making your home more efficient. Comes with free ear plugs too.
No, I’d rather they look at power efficiency and TDP as well.
But are you ready for it to crush your wallet?
I’m sure I read somewhere that 3d mark is getting a new benchmark that is meant to test mantle and dx12, could be those tests maybe. Still, I am curious as to the gains of the new amd mem architecture.
Waiting for march eagerly. 300w is nothing. My old gpu is using around 200w and it’s going to be 3-4 times weaker than 380x so it’s a win for me.
Trusted once because of “leaks.” never again.
240/250 don’t deserve to be a gaming video card, rendering them not fit for the category. Making the 270X a Low/Mid end
These are fake. AFAIK, they appeared first on PCPOP and the thread got deleted because the OP was posting these as a joke.
Yes they are, low-end or entry level gaming cards, but they are gamings cards after all. I have a 7700K APU, same GPU as the R7 250, and I can play very well at 768p with Mid-High setting. They are for casual gamers, not hardcore or enthusiastic of course.
for the “reference coolers’
I upgraded to the Artic Extreme 7970 and don’t even hear my GPU on 100% load and it peaks at around 65C, I live in South Africa right on the Equator =)
You do realize that the GTX 980 when adequately stressed will consume 300W?
No?
well, here’s the reason:
Nvidia mainly reports its lower TDP values for certain scenarios… when the gpu is fully stressed by a game or compute operations, its power consumption spikes radically upward.
AMD on the other hand has a tendency to mainly advertise close to the full power consumption TDP numbers in most intense scenarios that are likely to stress the gpu to the maximum.
Totally selling my 780 Ti for this. Between the lies about the 970. A driver enabling G sync on monitors , when they were charging people more for them because of a “required chip” . Then coming out with a $750 GTX 980 when its not even the full GM200 Maxwell. I’m not supporting Nvidia anymore. Go AMD!
My non-reference R9 290 Vapor-X card doesn’t go beyond 61 degrees Celsius under load. And it is factory overclocked unlike the reference R9 290 at 90 degrees Celsius….
I would never buy “2nd place” cards such as the R9 290 and GTX 970 ever again.
Though my R9 290 is treating me well.
I’d considered the R9 270X as Low-Mid range because of it’s 2GB VRAM. R9 280X is a true mid-range card.
There’s only like a 40-50W difference between R9 290X and a GTX 980.
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interesting, wouldn’t it be better to report both max and typical? still for me the TDP is a huge factor, wouldnt be an issue if i could afford to run a portable air conditioner to negate the affects of heat.
I have a 1200i, and liquid cooling on the GPU’s would fit perfectly at the top of my case. Temperatures would be kept at great levels. I don’t care one bit about power consumption as long as it’s powerful. Dual 300W + Single 225W will be fun.
Don’t see an issue with that. The GTX 780’s and the 780ti were rated to run at 80-85c so. A card like that at 73c is not bad. Especially if it has a higher limit on the card. Let’s say it can run at 85c for a prolonged period.
290’s ran at 90c +.
I am really interesting in getting this card. I have two 780’s in SLI, but I want to get away from SLI/Crossfire and only have single GPU, that is what I always used to run with and there are a lot less headaches doing a single GPU.
no worries about SLI profiles and as of late SLI has been bad in several games with odd artifacts and crap. Developers not caring nor nVidia to fix it.
This single card will sit at the same performance and probably even more than my two 780’s in a GOOD scaling SLI game. With none of the headaches. + 1GB extra VRAM and HBM as well.
Never mind the Nvidia 400 series… I dont think power consumption was in style back then.
When it comes to desktops, such power consumption is not really seen as a ‘big deal’ because a desktop computer usually has more space, air flow, and is easier to cool.
Therefore, I doubt you will actually feel the effects of heat dissipation from a 300W gpu.
Granted, it MIGHT increase the overall environmental temperature in the room if it was running on full load for an extended period of time, but we are talking hours upon hours as well as a relatively small increase in ambient temperature.
As for reporting both max and typical TDP… yes, but we are talking about corporations which focus on specifically designed marketing to sell their products.
In a sense, this could be seen as misleading by many… but there isn’t too much of an outcry right now to make a difference on that ground.
Also… you have to take another thing into account.
AMD’s new gpu will have GBM (stacked VRAM).
HBM was stated to reduce form factor by around 65%, and increase power efficiency by 68%, whilst providing much higher bandwidth.
The R9 380X is likely oriented towards full blown 4k gaming, and even with architectural changes that probably come close to or match (maybe even surpass) Maxwell, AMD is likely giving its cards more ‘breathing room’.
What I’m saying is that, if compared at maximum load of 300W, the R9 380X will quite likely heavily outpace the GTX 980 at also 300W.
So… efficiency wise, AMD will be much better because it will have much higher bandwidth and other improvements.
Plus, we don’t know to what overall extent will HBM change GPU’s as a whole.
At the moment, we are getting small pieces of info.
But… if AMD decides to use HBM in their Zen (K12) chips… then it is far more likely that performance will go only upwards… and not only in the GPU department, but also in the CPU department (separate of architectural changes which will see implementation in Zen that should theoretically bring it on par with Intel, if not hopefully surpass it).
I could definitely see potential in an AMD APU with HBM.
Coupled with HSA and software written to make use of it (though Carrizo should feature limited HSA use in programs not specifically written to take advantage of HSA.. sort of like hardware switching if I’m not mistaken), there is a high likelihood this type of implementation would result in far more efficient and powerful Soc’s for instance.
Now that’s some sick performance. Looks like this R9 300 is the next thing to grace my gaming PC.
South Africa is about as far from the Equator as the lower half of the United States… it’s not that damn hot there…
when this cards come out ill still wait another 3 months..then ill decide whether to get 380x or 970..one thing about this card that gets me thinking is its new technology for the vram..meaning there would be a high percentage that there would be something to happen (good or bad)..and when it comes to drivers AMD just falls on that part at launch..i remember my 5870 omg i had to wait after 8 months before it was truly optimized
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Yeah 4 of those on old x58 2000 watts when OC’ed lol